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    Default New ESPN Stat: Lebron James/Kobe Bryant Related

    I'm not sure if anyone saw last night's ESPN coverage of Kobe Bryant's game winner, but something stood out to me during the broadcast...



    Which leads me to ask... how many game winners does Lebron have in that space (if he's made 25 lead changing shots in the last 24 seconds over that time, a good number of those must be game winners), and why the random 2002-2003 marker.

    The whole stat seems rather arbitrary and it's an interesting move by ESPN.

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    Default Re: New ESPN Stat: Lebron James/Kobe Bryant Related

    They'll prop anything up there as long as those two are atop of the rankings.

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    Default Re: New ESPN Stat: Lebron James/Kobe Bryant Related

    Quote Originally Posted by MaxFly
    I'm not sure if anyone saw last night's ESPN coverage of Kobe Bryant's game winner, but something stood out to me during the broadcast...



    Which leads me to ask... how many game winners does Lebron have in that space (if he's made 25 lead changing shots in the last 24 seconds over that time, a good number of those must be game winners), and why the random 2002-2003 marker.

    The whole stat seems rather arbitrary and it's an interesting move by ESPN.
    Lebron didn't come into the league until 2003-2004. So really they are helping Kobe out on this one giving him an extra year.

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    Default Re: New ESPN Stat: Lebron James/Kobe Bryant Related

    02-03 is the first season kobe/shaq didnt win it all?

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    Default Re: New ESPN Stat: Lebron James/Kobe Bryant Related

    I remember seeing this earlier in the year.

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    Default Re: New ESPN Stat: Lebron James/Kobe Bryant Related

    VC too clutch !

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    Default Re: New ESPN Stat: Lebron James/Kobe Bryant Related

    why 02-03 get vince off that list

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    Default Re: New ESPN Stat: Lebron James/Kobe Bryant Related

    Quote Originally Posted by Duncan21formvp
    Lebron didn't come into the league until 2003-2004. So really they are helping Kobe out on this one giving him an extra year.
    So that would mean this stat is more of a comparison stat between Lebron and Bryant. However, on the night of a game winner, why no stat on the number of game winners hit by active players?

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    Default Re: New ESPN Stat: Lebron James/Kobe Bryant Related

    Quote Originally Posted by Duncan21formvp
    Lebron didn't come into the league until 2003-2004. So really they are helping Kobe out on this one giving him an extra year.
    Pretty lame of them, but whatever. James is doing 30, 8.5, and 7 right now...it's pretty clear he's the game's best player, no matter how they try to skew things.

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    Default Re: New ESPN Stat: Lebron James/Kobe Bryant Related

    Quote Originally Posted by MaxFly
    So that would mean this stat is more of a comparison stat between Lebron and Bryant. However, on the night of a game winner, why no stat on the number of game winners hit by active players?
    It'd lessen the total number of made shots for everyone, thus making it look less impressive. It's also "interesting" that they chose to mention that Bryant is 5-8 this year but ignore that James was in high school in 02-03. It's pretty badly slanted.

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    Default Re: New ESPN Stat: Lebron James/Kobe Bryant Related

    Quote Originally Posted by MaxFly
    So that would mean this stat is more of a comparison stat between Lebron and Bryant. However, on the night of a game winner, why no stat on the number of game winners hit by active players?
    To make Lebron look good, since he does not have a lot of game winners. No one in their right mind would say Lebron is more clutch than Kobe Bryant.

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    Default Re: New ESPN Stat: Lebron James/Kobe Bryant Related

    Quote Originally Posted by MaxFly
    So that would mean this stat is more of a comparison stat between Lebron and Bryant. However, on the night of a game winner, why no stat on the number of game winners hit by active players?
    Exactly, just a simple list of game winners by active players or even all-time is sufficient, no need to frame it, qualify it, etc.

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    Default Re: New ESPN Stat: Lebron James/Kobe Bryant Related

    Quote Originally Posted by MaxFly
    [COLOR=Gray]and why the random 2002-2003 marker.[/COLOR]
    [COLOR=Teal]It isn't random when it's result-oriented.[/COLOR]

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    Default Re: New ESPN Stat: Lebron James/Kobe Bryant Related

    Quote Originally Posted by MaxFly
    I'm not sure if anyone saw last night's ESPN coverage of Kobe Bryant's game winner, but something stood out to me during the broadcast...



    Which leads me to ask... how many game winners does Lebron have in that space (if he's made 25 lead changing shots in the last 24 seconds over that time, a good number of those must be game winners), and why the random 2002-2003 marker.

    The whole stat seems rather arbitrary and it's an interesting move by ESPN.

    Lebron is a super clutch player but this year belongs to Kobe... Both are clutch but if I need a long shot made Kobe is the man....

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    Default Re: New ESPN Stat: Lebron James/Kobe Bryant Related

    Quote Originally Posted by lakers_forever
    To make Lebron look good, since he does not have a lot of game winners. No one in their right mind would say Lebron is more clutch than Kobe Bryant.
    And yet he's hit more meaningful baskets since 02-03, in spite of not even playing in 02-03? Bryant has been the top clutch shooter for this season but James has clearly been great over his career. The gap in clutch shooting is not nearly as wide as you suggest.

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