Has Scoring Become Undervalued Here?

[Inactive]

na if you are good all around then you are better. thats why wade and lebron are ranked higher than dirk even though they beat him in the finals. The only thing dirk is better than both of them is scoring yet it beats 2 great all around players and so i believe that all around play is useless if youre not the best scorer.

Since when is Dirk better than Lebron/Wade at scoring?

[knicksman]

I'm assuming that when you say "takeover ability", you mean the ability to score off isolations, outside of the team game? That's always been controversial. You're as likely to destroy team chemistry, and shoot them out of the game, as you are to be a hero, and win it.

takeover means you need points. The one youre thinking that destroys chemistry are those players who scores a lot when scoring is not needed from them and be gone in the clutch when its the most needed

[Inactive]

takeover means you need points. The one youre thinking that destroys chemistry are those players who scores a lot when scoring is not needed from them and be gone in the clutch when its the most needed

It doesn't matter what point in the game we're talking about. You can have a player attempt to be a hero, or you can try to get the best possible shot, by playing as a team. Coaches, and fans have debated the pros and cons of those two approaches forever.

[knicksman]

Since when is Dirk better than Lebron/Wade at scoring?

Since they were born.

[tontoz]

Dallas had the best scoring efficiency in the playoffs and .....SURPRISE!!....they won the title.

Dirk scored a lot AND scored efficiently during the regular season and in the postseason. He was huge and i certainly don't remember anyone downplaying his scoring.

[ThaRegul8r]

I don't know where in the world this sentiment is coming from. Just because of one discussion on point guards, suddenly scoring has become "undervalued," when it's always been the #1 criteria for evaluating players by "most people."

na if you are good all around then you are better. thats why wade and lebron are ranked higher than dirk even though they beat him in the finals. The only thing dirk is better than both of them is scoring yet it beats 2 great all around players and so i believe that all around play is useless if youre not the best scorer.

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You just proved my point.

[Inactive]

Since they were born.

Wade, and Lebron both have higher career scoring averages in the regular season. Wade is tied with Dirk in the playoffs, Lebron's are higher. They all have similar efficiency. They've all been known as chokers at various times in their careers, and they've all been known as clutch performers, at other times.

WTF?

[ThaSwagg3r]

Wade, and Lebron both have higher career scoring averages in the regular season. Wade is tied with Dirk in the playoffs, Lebron's are higher. They all have similar efficiency. They've all been known as chokers at various times in their careers, and they've all been known as clutch performers, at other times.

Wade has never been known as a choker, **** outta here. Don't describe your boy LeBron and say Wade is the same thing.

Wade > LeBron, deal with it.

[knicksman]

It doesn't matter what point in the game we're talking about. You can have a player attempt to be a hero, or you can try to get the best possible shot, by playing as a team. Coaches, and fans have debated the pros and cons of those two approaches forever.

youre assuming that in every play, you could get open when its not true esp in crunch time where players are more focused on defense, so you need a takeover type of player in that situation. I dont think it destroys team chemistry coz im sure players want someone to score in that situation. The only time it destroys chemistry if the player is still cold and still taking shots. Just look at the finals, no one is capable in taking over in the heat game and do you think if they played team game, they can score?Lebron keeps on passing and so hes being a team player but did they win?Whereas in dallas, dirk gets hot in the 4th and do you think his teammates doesnt want him to take over? Much more if they cant score in that situation just like the heat.

[Inactive]

Wade has never been known as a choker, **** outta here. Don't describe your boy LeBron and say Wade is the same thing.

Wade > LeBron, deal with it.

Calm down.

[RRR3]

Since they were born.

LeBron James career regular season scoring average: 27.7 PPG
LeBron James Career postseason scoring average: 28.0 PPG
LeBron James regular seasons scoring 30+ PPG: 2
LeBron James postseasons scoring 30+ PPG: 2

Dwyane Wade career regular season scoring average: 25.4
Dwyane Wade career postseason scoring average: 25.9
Dwyane Wade regular seasons scoring 30+ PPG: 1
Dwyane Wade postseasons scoring 30+ PPG: 1

Dirk Nowitzki career regular season scoring average: 23.0
Dirk Nowitzki career postseason scoring average: 25.9
Dirk Nowitzki regular seasons scoring 30+ PPG: 0
Dirk Nowitzki postseasons scoring 30+ PPG: 0

You lose.

[tontoz]

Dirk is a much better shooter than Lebron and Wade but not a better scorer.

[knicksman]

Wade, and Lebron both have higher career scoring averages in the regular season. Wade is tied with Dirk in the playoffs, Lebron's are higher. They all have similar efficiency. They've all been known as chokers at various times in their careers, and they've all been known as clutch performers, at other times.

WTF?

I prefer a player who can score through jumpshots than through bullying in the paint esp for a perimeter player because they cant just overpower their opponents like shaq/duncan. Whereas dirk who Im ok with not having a jumpshot due to him being a big man is a better shooter than the 2. Thats why lebron got exposed when facing elite defenses. I even prefer paul pierce than the 2.

[kaiiu]

lol at Lebrick being mentioned.Cant be the best scorer when u cant shoot or have any moves besides volume 3s and bulldozing

[knicksman]

LeBron James career regular season scoring average: 27.7 PPG
LeBron James Career postseason scoring average: 28.0 PPG
LeBron James regular seasons scoring 30+ PPG: 2
LeBron James postseasons scoring 30+ PPG: 2

Dwyane Wade career regular season scoring average: 25.4
Dwyane Wade career postseason scoring average: 25.9
Dwyane Wade regular seasons scoring 30+ PPG: 1
Dwyane Wade postseasons scoring 30+ PPG: 1

Dirk Nowitzki career regular season scoring average: 23.0
Dirk Nowitzki career postseason scoring average: 25.9
Dirk Nowitzki regular seasons scoring 30+ PPG: 0
Dirk Nowitzki postseasons scoring 30+ PPG: 0

You lose.

dirk 1 ring>lebron 0

dirk could have 2 if stern didnt give wade 30+ free throws. You lose