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    Default That KLove/Wiggins trade most likely killed a dynasty

    Can you imagine a duo of dynamic young scorers backing up LeBron? He could've sat back and collected dem rings as Irving and Wiggins hit their prime. Instead, they traded their future for a shot at a title now. KLove is more easily replaceable, TT gets you those boards and three point shooting especialists aren't that hard to find. What is hard to find is dynamic scorers, and if they had AW (most likely he'd be a bench player his rookie season), he could've provided that as a starter with KI done in these Finals.

    As I said back then and I'll say it again, Wiggins gon' be a legit NBA top 5 player down the road, kid is a stud. Horrible trade Cleveland, that trio would've been filthy for years to come.

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    Default Re: That KLove/Wiggins trade most likely killed a dynasty

    LeGM didn't work the first time around, not sure why they'd try it again.

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    You have LeBron in his prime right now... every year, he will get older and less athletic.

    You have to capitalize on that right away by getting great players on the team opposed to waiting for players to develop. Love was putting up 17/10 and the Cavs were 37-8 in the latter half of the season when LeBron was healthy.

    Freak injuries have ruined their chances at a ring this year, not the trade. In an alternate universe, the Cavs have Wiggins and maybe Olynyk pulls his shoulder out instead. You can't use injuries to say "Welp, told ya so"

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    Default Re: That KLove/Wiggins trade most likely killed a dynasty

    In hindsight, that trade was a terrible idea. I thought it was a bad idea when it happened but most experts thought it made sense. Yes, Wiggins hitting his prime with prime Kyrie and still with a devastating Lebron would've been deadly. Not to mention that Rodman wanna-be in Tristan. That guy is a monster down low. Outplayed Green for 90% of game 1.

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    Default Re: That KLove/Wiggins trade most likely killed a dynasty

    Quote Originally Posted by J Shuttlesworth
    You have LeBron in his prime right now... every year, he will get older and less athletic.
    Yeah, and every year Wiggins will only get better and better which would have accounted for that... Thats the point of not trading him away. Especially when you already have Tristan Thompson who Cleveland has looked just as good if not better with than Love anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JerrySeinfeld
    Yeah, and every year Wiggins will only get better and better... Thats the point of not trading him away. Especially when you already have Tristan Thompson who Cleveland has looked just as good if not better with anyways.
    Wiggins will still take a few years to become as effective as what Love was doing with the Cavs this year.

    Last year, KLove played on the same team Wiggins is currently on, and put up 24/13.

    With Love and LeBron healthy, the Cavs had a better record than the Warriors once LeBron returned. You have to remember that as LeBron declines, Love will still be in his prime, and Kyrie will be entering it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Shuttlesworth
    Wiggins will still take a few years to become as effective as what Love was doing with the Cavs this year.

    Last year, KLove played on the same team Wiggins is currently on, and put up 24/13.

    With Love and LeBron healthy, the Cavs had a better record than the Warriors once LeBron returned. You have to remember that as LeBron declines, Love will still be in his prime, and Kyrie will be entering it.
    I guess I don't see what Love was doing as that effective at all (especially when getting paid the max just to spot up on the 3pt line) considering that they have Tristan Thompson who has played like a beast in the PO's

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    Default Re: That KLove/Wiggins trade most likely killed a dynasty



    If they can stay healthy for a few years, the Cavaliers may become a dynasty as they are.

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    Default Re: That KLove/Wiggins trade most likely killed a dynasty

    One simple question. How many guys drafted drafted 11 years apart formed a dynasty?

    [COLOR="White"]Answer: once, with Kareem/Magic, and Magic was so NBA ready he won fMVP in his rookie year. Wiggins won't reach that level for at least 3 more years.[/COLOR]

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    Default Re: That KLove/Wiggins trade most likely killed a dynasty

    The red flag was always going to be the injuries between Love and Irving, but you still make the trade.

    Wiggins, who knows if he'll better than either Love or Irving at their best. He wouldn't have developed right away. Bennett is garbage and a waste of a pick.

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    Default Re: That KLove/Wiggins trade most likely killed a dynasty

    Quote Originally Posted by J Shuttlesworth
    You have LeBron in his prime right now... every year, he will get older and less athletic.

    You have to capitalize on that right away by getting great players on the team opposed to waiting for players to develop. Love was putting up 17/10 and the Cavs were 37-8 in the latter half of the season when LeBron was healthy.

    Freak injuries have ruined their chances at a ring this year, not the trade. In an alternate universe, the Cavs have Wiggins and maybe Olynyk pulls his shoulder out instead. You can't use injuries to say "Welp, told ya so"
    But it's not like LeBron is gonna hit a wall and start sucking immediately. He could be a very good player for another 5 years easily. He's already won two titles as the main guy, he could've positioned himself al

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    Default Re: That KLove/Wiggins trade most likely killed a dynasty

    Quote Originally Posted by JerrySeinfeld
    I guess I don't see what Love was doing as that effective at all (especially when getting paid the max just to spot up on the 3pt line) considering that they have Tristan Thompson who has played like a beast in the PO's
    If you actually watched Love play, you'd notice towards the end of the regular season and playoffs, he was posting up a good bit and getting some good passes out of the post. The idea that Love is just a spot up shooter was a giant myth. He was a versatile scorer, and great rebounder. His problems were defensive, but when Mozgov joined the team, most of his problems were covered up.

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    Default Re: That KLove/Wiggins trade most likely killed a dynasty

    [QUOTE=TheMan]But it's not like LeBron is gonna hit a wall and start sucking immediately. He could be a very good player for another 5 years easily. He's already won two titles as the main guy, he could've positioned himself al

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    Default Re: That KLove/Wiggins trade most likely killed a dynasty

    Quote Originally Posted by J Shuttlesworth
    If you actually watched Love play, you'd notice towards the end of the regular season and playoffs, he was posting up a good bit and getting some good passes out of the post. The idea that Love is just a spot up shooter was a giant myth. He was a versatile scorer, and great rebounder. His problems were defensive, but when Mozgov joined the team, most of his problems were covered up.
    The Cavs were like 29-3 with Kyrie/Love/LeBron all playing after the trade. People trying to use the pre trade team to put down Kevin Love's effect.

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    Default Re: That KLove/Wiggins trade most likely killed a dynasty

    Horrible horrible trade. But Wiggins wouldn't be averaging more than 12-15 ppg on the Cavs throughout the regular season.

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