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ISH vigilant
Re: Kobe, Lebron, KD failed to three-peat
Originally Posted by RRR3
You could argue Pau was the same level as 2000 Kobe. He certainly gave Kobe more help in the finals than Kobe gave Shaq in the 2000 finals.
Pau led the lakers in winshares/48 in 2010. He was - by some metrics - slightly ahead of Kobe. Even if you'd argue that he was neck and neck or slightly below at best, that's much more help than Kobe gave Shaq in 2000.
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Lol
Re: Kobe, Lebron, KD failed to three-peat
Originally Posted by Mr Feeny
Pau led the lakers in winshares/48 in 2010. He was - by some metrics - slightly ahead of Kobe. Even if you'd argue that he was neck and neck or slightly below at best, that's much more help than Kobe gave Shaq in 2000.
No sense arguing with PromBetheus about Kobe. He thinks it makes him smart to make the “unconventional” take that Kobe>LeBron. Definition of a pseudo-intellectual.
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Re: Kobe, Lebron, KD failed to three-peat
KD blew his Achilles out though
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Kobe, Lebron, KD failed to three-peat
Originally Posted by Mr Feeny
6 seems arbitrary. But even then, he absolutely did. The goal is to lead your team to a title. Jordan led his teams to 6 titles in 8 years.
We don't care about reaching the finals and then failing on the biggest stage. That isnt an accomplishment.
So Jordan never had a 6 year run as dominant as LeBron ok
Thanks for playing
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The GOATS
Re: Kobe, Lebron, KD failed to three-peat
Originally Posted by Mr Feeny
Never leading against Boston and losing in 6, and then getting swept in the 2nd round by Dallas in 2011, is not "nearly 3peating"
If you wanted to know why the Lakers weren't more competitive, it's simple. Kobe shot like trash. 40% for the series, and they lost a pivotal game 4 when Kobe choked down the stretch and watched Paul Pierve lead the Celtics to an NBA record 24 points finals comeback at Staples. 7-20 if I'm not mistaken, was Kobe. In that very close game.
You can try to word it however you like but the fact remains is that he made the finals then won 2 in a row right after. A loss by 1 is the same as a loss by 20. Same result. He nearly 3peated isn't hyperbole. And lol @ shooting 40% who gives a damn? It's called playing a GOAT type defense. 08 Celtics spent the whole series focused on Kobe because the rest of the cast was subpar. Teams live and die by their star player (unless you're the old suns, they just die by the 3) and the Lakers followed that rule. It's why Kobe lead them to more wins than losses. I could give a damn about his efficiency when his overall effectiveness was GOAT tier. Ask 3ball about players who won multiple rings with the least amount of help, but you're too busy being ignorant to prove your point.
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Re: Kobe, Lebron, KD failed to three-peat
Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
Since the 2000's? Him and Jordan are the only ones to do it in the last 50 years
Yep. Pistons came soooo close. Just a phantom foul away in '88.
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Bernie 2020
Re: Kobe, Lebron, KD failed to three-peat
Originally Posted by StrongLurk
As the man...only Shaq was able to do it since the 2000's started.
Shaq is criminally underrated all time and is > Kobe and Duncan.
2 players carrying a team to a three peat, but only 1 gets credit for it. Good ol Insidehoops.
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Bernie 2020
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Bernie 2020
Re: Kobe, Lebron, KD failed to three-peat
They couldn't help but to stop ignoring him you absolute dullard, no one played as well as he did during that time.
And now back to not taking yall seriously lol. Enjoy rooting for the Lakers for the next couple of years
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Our Lord & Savior
Re: Kobe, Lebron, KD failed to three-peat
Originally Posted by Bosnian Sajo
GIFTED an MVP in 2008 when it clearly should have gone to CP3
Phil Jackson openly admitting that Kobe was GIFTED all-d teams off name alone
GIFTED a FMVP in 2010 after being carried by Gasol
Prove me wrong brother
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Lol
Re: Kobe, Lebron, KD failed to three-peat
Originally Posted by SpaceJam
GIFTED an MVP in 2008 when it clearly should have gone to CP3
Phil Jackson openly admitting that Kobe was GIFTED all-d teams off name alone
GIFTED a FMVP in 2010 after being carried by Gasol
Prove me wrong brother
GiftBe
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ISH vigilant
Re: Kobe, Lebron, KD failed to three-peat
Originally Posted by CAstill
You can try to word it however you like but the fact remains is that he made the finals then won 2 in a row right after. A loss by 1 is the same as a loss by 20. Same result. He nearly 3peated isn't hyperbole. And lol @ shooting 40% who gives a damn? It's called playing a GOAT type defense. 08 Celtics spent the whole series focused on Kobe because the rest of the cast was subpar. Teams live and die by their star player (unless you're the old suns, they just die by the 3) and the Lakers followed that rule. It's why Kobe lead them to more wins than losses. I could give a damn about his efficiency when his overall effectiveness was GOAT tier. Ask 3ball about players who won multiple rings with the least amount of help, but you're too busy being ignorant to prove your point.
In other words, you failed to rebut anything I've said. He was never close to a 3peat.
As far as his shooting percentage goes, his putrid shooting was the very reason they only won 2 games against that Celtics in 2008. Lebron - with a much weaker supporting cast - Tom them to the last minute of game 7. But when your star player bricks one shot after another at the tune of 40% for the series, you're not going to have a great chance of winning.
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ISH vigilant
Re: Kobe, Lebron, KD failed to three-peat
Originally Posted by Bosnian Sajo
They couldn't help but to stop ignoring him you absolute dullard, no one played as well as he did during that time.
And now back to not taking yall seriously lol. Enjoy rooting for the Lakers for the next couple of years
Is this a joke? what years are we talking? 2005-2007, Dirk was head and shoulders ahead of Kobe. In 2008, CP was so far ahead of him that it wasn't even funny, and Pierve outplayed him head to head on the biggest stage. 2009 onwards (if not 2008) lebron was already tiers ahead.
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