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Old 02-10-2017, 06:25 AM   #1
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Default If the Philadelphia 76ers don't break up their team...playoffs next year?

76ERS have been competitive this year, without the number 1 overall pick. Although they still have a bad record you can see improvements. When Simmons returns and they keep the same team next season..do you think they can make the playoffs?
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Old 02-10-2017, 11:31 AM   #2
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Default Re: If the Philadelphia 76ers don't break up their team...playoffs next year?

It depends on the Eastern conference. Who falls off from playoff contention, and who else throws their hat in the mix. If the conference gets tougher, then their odds drop precipitously.

Also, if Embiid stays healthy and is available for 82 games, then their odds are better than 50/50.
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Old 02-10-2017, 11:42 AM   #3
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Default Re: If the Philadelphia 76ers don't break up their team...playoffs next year?

Barring any crazy set back, I don't see how they don't.

They'll make SOME moves this off season, which should improve them further.
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Old 02-10-2017, 12:23 PM   #4
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Adding Simmons + potentially two top 7-8ish picks plus cap space out the wazoo they should be close to a .500 team if Simmons is who we think he is.
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Old 02-10-2017, 01:29 PM   #5
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Default Re: If the Philadelphia 76ers don't break up their team...playoffs next year?

Playoffs? Ersan Ilyasova is a free agent. He's having a contract year similar to his first deal. Chances of him being back are slim. What he gave the Sixers was a perimeter stretch big that worked well next to Embiid. You lose that and replace him with what? Ben Simmons talent is nice but he's not a floor spacer. No issue with him playing the PF being the teams "PG". There is a problem if you dont add a floor spacer in that lineup. So who is that guy? Bayless? He hasnt played in so long you can't seriously count him. And dont feed me his last time out where he shot so well. Covington is so inconsistent. Henderson is not a floor spacer. If you run TJ McConnell at PG he's not a floor spacer either. So my question is who replaces Ilyasova and I hate typing that as if he is irreplaceable because he's not. But you need shooting.

Noel is a RFA who if he isn't traded will get offered a crazy deal starting at $20mil per. Sixers not paying that for a backup and no he cant play next to Embiid. Jah clearly is a back to the basket half court Center. He can't play PF or next to Embiid either. He has to be traded either this season or draft. But you're talking playoffs like the compensation you get for both or either will be beneficial to the Sixers next season. Future picks are not that.

Sergio Rod was better than I expected. Nice backup facilitator but he is a free agent. It's up to him if he likes the situation or will he want a long term deal on a contender? Or does he go back overseas? He's avg 23mpg and with Ben Simmons presence could see his minutes drop as you have another ball handler. Toss in Bayless who will need someones minutes.

So I listed 4 players who most likely will not be on this roster come next season that you think playoffs can be made.

2 potential draft picks if Lakers converts? That is nice and I like adding some youth to positions that need upgrades (like swingman, guard). But to think rookies will instantly help is a stretch. Not impossible but are you really going to argue playoffs while using two unproven rookies as your support?


Bayless-McConnell
Henderson-Stauskus
Covington-TLC
Simmons-Saric
Embiid-Holmes

Lottery pick or 2
Cap space
Whatever assets via trade (unknown)

Pretty mature to talk playoffs given this. Too many questions that need answers.
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Old 02-10-2017, 01:38 PM   #6
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Default Re: If the Philadelphia 76ers don't break up their team...playoffs next year?

Absolutely. I could see them easily knocking pacers,bulls,pistons out of the playoffs.
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Old 02-10-2017, 02:11 PM   #7
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Absolutely. I could see them easily knocking pacers,bulls,pistons out of the playoffs.
Y'all going way too far with this.
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Old 02-10-2017, 02:44 PM   #8
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Y'all going way too far with this.
how so? its not like those teams are a lock for making it anyways.
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Old 02-10-2017, 02:58 PM   #9
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should be a lock, minus Embiid or Simmons injury
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Old 02-10-2017, 02:58 PM   #10
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They need Fultz/Ball plus MOnk
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Old 02-10-2017, 03:03 PM   #11
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Default Re: If the Philadelphia 76ers don't break up their team...playoffs next year?

can embiid stay healthy?
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Old 02-10-2017, 03:11 PM   #12
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embiid has missed the last 8 games.. they lost 6 of them.. they are 6 games off the 8th seed despite starting horribly, playing without their 1st pick, with a lot of injuries and embiid missing almost half of the games.. i dont care if they have 11 d-league players next season as long as embiid plays regularly they are making the playoffs
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Old 02-10-2017, 03:58 PM   #13
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Playoffs? Ersan Ilyasova is a free agent. He's having a contract year similar to his first deal. Chances of him being back are slim. What he gave the Sixers was a perimeter stretch big that worked well next to Embiid. You lose that and replace him with what? Ben Simmons talent is nice but he's not a floor spacer. No issue with him playing the PF being the teams "PG". There is a problem if you dont add a floor spacer in that lineup. So who is that guy? Bayless? He hasnt played in so long you can't seriously count him. And dont feed me his last time out where he shot so well. Covington is so inconsistent. Henderson is not a floor spacer. If you run TJ McConnell at PG he's not a floor spacer either. So my question is who replaces Ilyasova and I hate typing that as if he is irreplaceable because he's not. But you need shooting.

Noel is a RFA who if he isn't traded will get offered a crazy deal starting at $20mil per. Sixers not paying that for a backup and no he cant play next to Embiid. Jah clearly is a back to the basket half court Center. He can't play PF or next to Embiid either. He has to be traded either this season or draft. But you're talking playoffs like the compensation you get for both or either will be beneficial to the Sixers next season. Future picks are not that.

Sergio Rod was better than I expected. Nice backup facilitator but he is a free agent. It's up to him if he likes the situation or will he want a long term deal on a contender? Or does he go back overseas? He's avg 23mpg and with Ben Simmons presence could see his minutes drop as you have another ball handler. Toss in Bayless who will need someones minutes.

So I listed 4 players who most likely will not be on this roster come next season that you think playoffs can be made.

2 potential draft picks if Lakers converts? That is nice and I like adding some youth to positions that need upgrades (like swingman, guard). But to think rookies will instantly help is a stretch. Not impossible but are you really going to argue playoffs while using two unproven rookies as your support?


Bayless-McConnell
Henderson-Stauskus
Covington-TLC
Simmons-Saric
Embiid-Holmes

Lottery pick or 2
Cap space
Whatever assets via trade (unknown)

Pretty mature to talk playoffs given this. Too many questions that need answers.

GOBB is a true blue Philly fan.


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Old 02-10-2017, 04:30 PM   #14
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Default Re: If the Philadelphia 76ers don't break up their team...playoffs next year?

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Playoffs? Ersan Ilyasova is a free agent. He's having a contract year similar to his first deal. Chances of him being back are slim. What he gave the Sixers was a perimeter stretch big that worked well next to Embiid. You lose that and replace him with what? Ben Simmons talent is nice but he's not a floor spacer. No issue with him playing the PF being the teams "PG". There is a problem if you dont add a floor spacer in that lineup. So who is that guy? Bayless? He hasnt played in so long you can't seriously count him. And dont feed me his last time out where he shot so well. Covington is so inconsistent. Henderson is not a floor spacer. If you run TJ McConnell at PG he's not a floor spacer either. So my question is who replaces Ilyasova and I hate typing that as if he is irreplaceable because he's not. But you need shooting.

Noel is a RFA who if he isn't traded will get offered a crazy deal starting at $20mil per. Sixers not paying that for a backup and no he cant play next to Embiid. Jah clearly is a back to the basket half court Center. He can't play PF or next to Embiid either. He has to be traded either this season or draft. But you're talking playoffs like the compensation you get for both or either will be beneficial to the Sixers next season. Future picks are not that.

Sergio Rod was better than I expected. Nice backup facilitator but he is a free agent. It's up to him if he likes the situation or will he want a long term deal on a contender? Or does he go back overseas? He's avg 23mpg and with Ben Simmons presence could see his minutes drop as you have another ball handler. Toss in Bayless who will need someones minutes.

So I listed 4 players who most likely will not be on this roster come next season that you think playoffs can be made.

2 potential draft picks if Lakers converts? That is nice and I like adding some youth to positions that need upgrades (like swingman, guard). But to think rookies will instantly help is a stretch. Not impossible but are you really going to argue playoffs while using two unproven rookies as your support?


Bayless-McConnell
Henderson-Stauskus
Covington-TLC
Simmons-Saric
Embiid-Holmes

Lottery pick or 2
Cap space
Whatever assets via trade (unknown)

Pretty mature to talk playoffs given this. Too many questions that need answers.

Great post.

IMO, if you can actually run Simmons as point, you can slot a small 3-point specialist into the line-up at the 1. Easier to find than a stretch-4 to replace ilyasova
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Old 02-10-2017, 07:46 PM   #15
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how so? its not like those teams are a lock for making it anyways.
Have you seen the back court? I seriously am struggling to think of a worse guard rotation.
Simmons will be a rookie next year technically, and we still don't know if he'll even be good.
Plus there is still the Okafor/Noel issue that has yet to be dealt with.

They'd be lucky to steal more than a game vs any of the teams you listed.
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