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National High School Star
Is Gasol a product of Kobe?
Or they are perfect compliments to each other?
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Utah Jazz (6-6)
Re: Is Gasol a product of Kobe?
Both.
Mostly they're a perfect complement for each other but I think Gasol does benefit from the constant pressure defenses have to put on Kobe.
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Good college starter
Re: Is Gasol a product of Kobe?
[COLOR=Teal]In terms of production? Slightly. In terms of winning? Neither won anything on his own. In terms of skills? No.[/COLOR]
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FACT
Re: Is Gasol a product of Kobe?
He was a 20/10 guy before Kobe. With that said, Gasol is partially a product of Kobe just like Kobe is partially a product of Gasol.
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Re: Is Gasol a product of Kobe?
Originally Posted by w00terz
He was a 20/10 guy before Kobe. With that said, Gasol is partially a product of Kobe just like Kobe is partially a product of Gasol.
Yes, Gasol is a product of Kobe.
Just look at the numbers. All Pau's numbers have become significantly better.
He was a 1x all star in his forst 7 years now he's a back to back all-star.
Kobe has also turned him into a aggressive player
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIbBRS58-Qk
Pau used to be weal and frail. Now he holds his own against KG,
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King of ISH
Re: Is Gasol a product of Kobe?
Gasol benefits from Kobe.
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Banned
Re: Is Gasol a product of Kobe?
Originally Posted by gpfanz
Or they are perfect compliments to each other?
No. Gasol leads the team in Win Shares and PER and was an allstar before ever playing with Kobe and won Gold Medal before ever playing with Kobe against the Likes of Wade, Lebron, Melo, etc.
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National High School Star
Re: Is Gasol a product of Kobe?
Originally Posted by Duncan21formvp
No. Gasol leads the team in Win Shares and PER and was an allstar before ever playing with Kobe and won Gold Medal before ever playing with Kobe against the Likes of Wade, Lebron, Melo, etc.
What is Win shares and PER???
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Banned
Re: Is Gasol a product of Kobe?
Originally Posted by gpfanz
What is Win shares and PER???
http://www.basketball-reference.com/about/glossary.html
WS
Win Shares (available since the 1951-52 season in the NBA); an estimate of the number of wins contributed by a player.
Basically the player on the team that helped win the most for that season.
PER
Player Efficiency Rating In John's words, "The PER sums up all a player's positive accomplishments, subtracts the negative accomplishments, and returns a per-minute rating of a player's performance."
So both are based on a player's performance as an individual.
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Decent college freshman
Re: Is Gasol a product of Kobe?
Originally Posted by Yung D-Will
Both.
Mostly they're a perfect complement for each other but I think Gasol does benefit from the constant pressure defenses have to put on Kobe.
This^^^^
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Not airballing my layups anymore
Re: Is Gasol a product of Kobe?
Playing around great players makes you greater or at least makes you step up your game.
Kobe benefited from playing with Shaq and playing in meaningful games so early in his career, one of the reasons he far surpassed AI/Tmac/VC. If he had started out in Charlotte or New Jersey he wouldn't have gotten such a head start on greatness.
Look at Rondo. Nobody was checking for him. Then he plays with the big three and now the perception of him his far greater.
I believe it goes both ways--Jordan didn't win without/before Pippen, but Jordan elevated Pippens game. Shaq owes Kobe a lot and vice versa.
We all know Gasol would be a career loser if he had stayed in Memphis.
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Decent college freshman
Re: Is Gasol a product of Kobe?
Somewhat, he is also a product of the triangle offense. This nothing to take away from Pau, but he fits the system like a glove.
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National High School Star
Re: Is Gasol a product of Kobe?
Originally Posted by Duncan21formvp
http://www.basketball-reference.com/about/glossary.html
WS
Win Shares (available since the 1951-52 season in the NBA); an estimate of the number of wins contributed by a player.
Basically the player on the team that helped win the most for that season.
PER
Player Efficiency Rating In John's words, " The PER sums up all a player's positive accomplishments, subtracts the negative accomplishments, and returns a per-minute rating of a player's performance."
So both are based on a player's performance as an individual.
You mean statistics ok...
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Land of Ownst
Re: Is Gasol a product of Kobe?
Originally Posted by Duncan21formvp
No. Gasol leads the team in Win Shares and PER and was an allstar before ever playing with Kobe and won Gold Medal before ever playing with Kobe against the Likes of Wade, Lebron, Melo, etc.
Lol, you have no shame.
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Re: Is Gasol a product of Kobe?
Originally Posted by gpfanz
Or they are perfect compliments to each other?
They compliment each other perfectly.. Gasol can dominate games without THE BALL and Kobe needs the ball to dominate.. Marriage made in Jerry West's office.. LOL.... Let me remind everyone that the Lakers without KOBE AND BYNUM were great with Gasol running the show....
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