Steve Nash ran the NBA's top offense for 9 years straight

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Serious I hate it when these guys go on and on about NASH OFFENSIVE GOAT when they don't address the part that they basically punted defense. If you solely focus on offense guess what, your offense is probably gonna be fuccing good. Guess what, this isn't a viable winning strategy. It's bullshit gimmick ball.

What would happen if we made a team with Kevin Garnet, Ben Wallace, Bruce Bowen, Tony Allen, and Rajon Rondo. Guess what would happen, they would set records for #1 defense in all categories and then score about 60 points a game. GOAT defense but it doesn't mean shit.


There are 2 sides to basketball, Nash would only show up for one of them.

No one has claimed he was great, or even good defensively. Just that he was an all-time great level offensive point guard. Which he factually was. Now **** off and troll in some other thread, all we're going to be doing here is discussing offensive impact.

[Im Still Ballin]

Shawn Marion was the closest thing they had to a rim defender

Don't knock Nash because Amare is terrible on defense

[warriorfan]

I'm mad because warriorfan hit me with a lethal dose of rat poison

[KevinNYC]

The other crazy thing about this is he did for two different teams and two different coaches.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

I think you've got some kind of a learning disability. If I'm not saying he's a good defender and you're telling me he's not a good defender you've accomplished jack shit. That's not "rat poison."

[24-Inch_Chrome]

The other crazy thing about this is he did for two different teams and two different coaches.

Yeah, I was surprised to see those 3 years with Dallas on the list. It speaks to his offensive skill level as a player and takes away from his detractors who argue that he was nothing more than a product of the Phoenix system (which is a argument).

[IGOTGAME]

Shawn Marion was the closest thing they had to a rim defender

Don't knock Nash because Amare is terrible on defense

They played with that lineup because of Nash. With a traditional lineup he goes back to what he was in Dallas.

[Im Still Ballin]

They played with that lineup because of Nash. With a traditional lineup he goes back to what he was in Dallas.

Replace Amare with Garnett and they'd have won a championship or two

He's got the mobility and skill to run and gun

And he can lock down the paint

[iamgine]

Serious I hate it when these guys go on and on about NASH OFFENSIVE GOAT when they don't address the part that they basically punted defense. If you solely focus on offense guess what, your offense is probably gonna be fuccing good. Guess what, this isn't a viable winning strategy. It's bullshit gimmick ball.

What would happen if we made a team with Kevin Garnet, Ben Wallace, Bruce Bowen, Tony Allen, and Rajon Rondo. Guess what would happen, they would set records for #1 defense in all categories and then score about 60 points a game. GOAT defense but it doesn't mean shit.


There are 2 sides to basketball, Nash would only show up for one of them.

That is not correct. Their defensive rating was ranked at 13th-17th out of 30 teams, which was pretty much average. The Suns did play some defense.

[IGOTGAME]

Replace Amare with Garnett and they'd have won a championship or two

He's got the mobility and skill to run and gun

And he can lock down the paint

playing Garnet at center with Marion at 4 is a traditional lineup?

I also don't think they win playing that lineup. They would get pushed around too much, Spurs would beat them and same with the Heat.

Prime Duncan might work but its silly when you have to start cherry picking top 15 players(much better than Nash) to make a case for him playing a championship caliber style of play. When you add these players they are winning despite Nash's flawed style of play.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

That is not correct. Their defensive rating was ranked at 13th-17th out of 30 teams, which was pretty much average. The Suns did play some defense.

Facts don't work very well with him, just a warning.

[KevinNYC]

That is not correct. Their defensive rating was ranked at 13th-17th out of 30 teams, which was pretty much average. The Suns did play some defense.

Also the year before they got Nash, the Suns has S. Marbury. Their offensive rating was 21st and their defensive rating was 24th.

Also remember those Suns teams came very close to a championship.
Some injuries don't happen if the suspensions in 2007 don't happen....you never know.

[warriorfan]

That is not correct. Their defensive rating was ranked at 13th-17th out of 30 teams, which was pretty much average. The Suns did play some defense.

Yeah they would run the tanking teams out of the gym with their gimmick ball leading to inflated defensive stats. What happened every time in the playoffs? Experienced teams slowed the tempo and locked them down and their smallball bullshit wouldn't fly in the half court setting. Steve Nash should have asterisks by his shit.

[AussieG]

He was a great passer, high basketball IQ but his scoring was crazy efficient as well.

His teams were fun to watch. Especially with Amare, Marion, and all the 3 point shooters off the bench.

[AussieG]

Yeah they would run the tanking teams out of the gym with their gimmick ball leading to inflated defensive stats. What happened every time in the playoffs? Experienced teams slowed the tempo and locked them down and their smallball bullshit wouldn't fly in the half court setting. Steve Nash should have asterisks by his shit.

Agree it was always going to be hard to work in the playoffs but during the regular season they put on a great show and were great to watch.

They made basketball fun and entertaining which is more valuable to me, than winning internet arguments about players, legacies and stans.

It'll be interesting to see how far the Warriors can go in the next few seasons because they do a similar thing in some ways.