Ibaka is a top 10 PF.

[KG215]

One thing to keep in mind about Ibaka is that he's only 23 years old so he's more than likely far from a finished product. He's come back every year improved and with something added to his game.

[mjokc]

Aldridge same level as Ibaka? Are you serious?

Ibaka is just as good of a shooter as LMA and also leads the league in blocks. Both are average defenders and rebound around the same rate. I would give the slight edge to LMA because of more post moves and slightly better rebounding, but it isn't like he's that much better IMO.

[wally_world]

Kevin Love
LaMarcus Aldridge
Blake Griffin
Chris Bosh
Dirk Nowitzki
Josh Smith
David Lee
Zach Randolph


Thats 8. Pau Gasol has had a poor season, i'd say he's on par with Ibaka for this season. But i'll give him the benefit of doubt based on previous seasons so i'll take Pau over Serge. But yeah, still top 10

[LikeABosh]

Ibaka is just as good of a shooter as LMA and also leads the league in blocks. Both are average defenders and rebound around the same rate. I would give the slight edge to LMA because of more post moves and slightly better rebounding, but it isn't like he's that much better IMO.

His offensive game shits on Ibaka's

[mjokc]

His offensive game shits on Ibaka's

I said I give the edge to LMA.

[selrahc]

for sure. westbrook is a retarded chucker and ibaka doesnt get enough credit for carrying him to victories.

[Deleterious]

I said I give the edge to LMA.

You said slight edge, truth is he isn't even close to LMA.

[mjokc]

You said slight edge, truth is he isn't even close to LMA.

Please, their per 36 stats are damn near identical.

[LikeABosh]

Please, their per 36 stats are damn near identical.

Who gives a shit about per 36, tons of players will have good stats if you look at per 36, it's not even that close anyway. Anyway, Aldridge averages 21, 9 and 3 assists, Ibaka averages 13, 8 and 3 blocks. ibaka is actually a below average defender IMO, throw up a pump fake and score on hiim all day

[mjokc]

Who gives a shit about per 36, tons of players will have good stats if you look at per 36, it's not even that close anyway. Anyway, Aldridge averages 21, 9 and 3 assists, Ibaka averages 13, 8 and 3 blocks. ibaka is actually a below average defender IMO, throw up a pump fake and score on hiim all day

Ibaka is not a below average defender, that's just ignorant. He's an average defender just like LMA. Per 36 stats give you a better idea of a player's productivity that doesn't discriminate based off of number of attempts or minutes. Sure LMA averages more points but he also plays more minutes and takes twice the amount of shots.

[wally_world]

People are underrating Ibaka here.

Aldridge has a clearly better post game, i'll give him that.

Shot blocking, not even close
Defense, advantage Ibaka
Shooting, its close, but Ibaka has a 3pt shot in his arsenal

Ibaka is shooting 57/35/75 which is an INSANE number for a defensive athletic PF/C.

He wont carry a team as a number one option like Aldridge, but Aldridge wont do all the intangibles like Ibaka does, they are totally different players. But the gap is smaller than you think.

[andremiller07]

To me

Love, Alridge, Griffin, Bosh, Drik, Z-Bo, Horford, Lee are all so much better I don't think its even worth discussing.

Players like Monroe, Milsap, West, Anthony Davis, Healthy Nene are all higher skilled/IQ players who are all far more capable of making shots for themselves and others while setting up teammates.

To me hes top 15 somewhere between 12-15.

[mjokc]

People are underrating Ibaka here.

Aldridge has a clearly better post game, i'll give him that.

Shot blocking, not even close
Defense, advantage Ibaka
Shooting, its close, but Ibaka has a 3pt shot in his arsenal

Ibaka is shooting 57/35/75 which is an INSANE number for a defensive athletic PF/C.

He wont carry a team as a number one option like Aldridge, but Aldridge wont do all the intangibles like Ibaka does, they are totally different players. But the gap is smaller than you think.

Great post.

[Jlamb47]

Who gives a shit about per 36, tons of players will have good stats if you look at per 36, it's not even that close anyway. Anyway, Aldridge averages 21, 9 and 3 assists, Ibaka averages 13, 8 and 3 blocks. ibaka is actually a below average defender IMO, throw up a pump fake and score on hiim all day

Exactly!
Everyone thinks Ibaka is an all star defender just cuz his blocks. His defense is overrated

[mjokc]

To me

Love, Alridge, Griffin, Bosh, Drik, Z-Bo, Horford, Lee are all so much better I don't think its even worth discussing.

Players like Monroe, Milsap, West, Anthony Davis, Healthy Nene are all higher skilled/IQ players who are all far more capable of making shots for themselves and others while setting up teammates.

To me hes top 15 somewhere between 12-15.

3 or 4 of the players you listed play center most of the time. Anthony Davis? Are you serious? Ibaka destroyed Davis every time they matched up. Don't get me wrong, in time Davis will be one of the best bigs in the league, right now Ibaka is better.