Why did Lebron s ''superstar'' teammates average 16/5/46% and 12/7/46% in playoffs?

[JebronLames]

Wade was worse than his numbers show. Defenses paid less attention to him plus lebron was going out of his way to get him going.

[TheCorporation]

well lets see

faced the sad ass bucks who i don't even think had a winning record. Ray averaged 17, two other players averaged 13+

Wow! 13 points! What a huge burst of help...

second round faced the injury riddled bulls, Lebron struggled but luckily it doesn't take much offense to beat the Bulls

Struggled? Lost one fluke game = struggled. Gotcha

Finals, first 4 games were pretty lousy for Bron. Wade averaged 20/4/5 on better shooting than Lebron, there were also 4 other HEAT players who averaged 10+ ppg in that series, lets not forget Ray and the bail out shot either

Great, you failed to address everything the OP mentioned. Will have t.o remember to neg you when we get our ability to rep again...

Not to mention you failed to mention Bosh scored ZERO, yes, ZERO points in the Game 7 Finals while Duncan abused him and put up 24/12.

[Milbuck]

well lets see

faced the sad ass bucks who i don't even think had a winning record. Ray averaged 17, two other players averaged 13+

second round faced the injury riddled bulls, Lebron struggled but luckily it doesn't take much offense to beat the 2013 Bulls, 3 other HEAT players averaged double digits on 50+% shooting, while Lebron averaged 23 on 44%.

ECF Lebron was clearly the leader, played great and won the series even with his team struggling shooting the ball

Finals, first 4 games were pretty lousy for Bron. Wade averaged 20/4/5 on better shooting than Lebron, there were also 4 other HEAT players who averaged 10+ ppg in that series, lets not forget Ray and the bail out shot either

Closest sweep in NBA history. Miami does not want to see us in the PS

[Rose'sACL]

while i get that OP is a troll. If you talk about 2012 finals, everyone talks about bad play by harden as if it was not heat's defense that made it possible and try to make it up like hrden didn't play well in most of the postseason.
If those excuses are made OK and try to belittle heat's finals win then heat should get more praise for winning with both wade and bosh struggling on offense.

[J Shuttlesworth]

No man, still didn't get them involved enough. That's on Bron.

What in the world are you talking about? A lot of people were saying he should've passed it to them less because Bosh kept bricking his jumpers, or staying out at the 3pt line... Wade was just throwing the ball to the other team If you watched the games, you'd see him trying to get them involved. Wade averaged 15 attempts per game and Bosh averaged 10 in the playoffs. How is that LeBron ballhogging? I mean how do you average 7 assists in the playoffs if you're a ballhog? Quit pulling stuff out of your ass, porkins.

[Milbuck]

dats cuz u aint gon be in now posteason for some time

Well of course, the playoffs are like 3 months away

[Trollsmasher]

OP should've used TS%, because that really shows how awful they were (Wade with sub 50%)

[Eye Test]

please, lets not make excuses for the stacked team at south beach, it is what it is, maybe some day lebron will play with what other superstars have managed to win it all, until that day, embrace the "stacked" label

[TMT]

Really? Resorting to diminishing his great surrounding cast in order to make Lebron look better? Not all of the big three can put up 20ppg averages; not to mention they have depth that goes beyond the big three who put up big performances in the playoffs. Stop it.

[Rose'sACL]

Really? Resorting to diminishing his great surrounding cast in order to make Lebron look better? Not all of the big three can put up 20ppg averages; not to mention they have depth that goes beyond the big three who put up big performances in the playoffs. Stop it.

give me stats of those permances. but when you do, post their stats for whole playoffs like ray allen and battier's 3 pt fg% against indiana which made that series go to 7. they were missing wide open 3s. in reality if even 3 players on heat played to their average play, heat would have won more easily in playoffs.
also, Miami was stacked in playoffs in 2012. they weren't stacked in 2013. they just had great talent players that most of the time didn't play well.

[rip2]

Only reason their stats are so low is because Lebron dominates the ball so much.. in fact, one can actually make an argument here with the OP, that Lebron makes his teammates worse.

Wade has shown he still can show up with that 41 points on 17/25 FG, 10 REB game. Bosh has shown he can take over as he is the heat's clutchest player and put the team on his back many times this season. Lebron doesn't really make his teammates improve at all, in fact, makes them worst.

So why does Lebron makes his teammates worst?
Wade: ex-FMVP, top 3 player in the league, top 2 SG becoming who is he today.
Bosh: Top 5 PF in the game, annual all star, becoming who is he today.

Wade without Lebron in finals: 1 ring FMVP. Lebron without Wade in finals: swept.

For comparison, look at Kobe and how he transformed Gasol. An easy stat would be.. Gasol 0-20 in playoff games without Kobe?

[VIntageNOvel]

to answer op's question: because lebron doesnt make his teammate better

nah in fact he makes his superstar teammates worse

ill give him prop though, just like MDA, he makes scrub better

[Rose'sACL]

Only reason their stats are so low is because Lebron dominates the ball so much.. in fact, one can actually make an argument here with the OP, that Lebron makes his teammates worse.

Wade has shown he still can show up with that 41 points on 17/25 FG, 10 REB game. Bosh has shown he can take over as he is the heat's clutchest player and put the team on his back many times this season. Lebron doesn't really make his teammates improve at all, in fact, makes them worst.

So why does Lebron makes his teammates worst?
Wade: ex-FMVP, top 3 player in the league, top 2 SG becoming who is he today.
Bosh: Top 5 PF in the game, annual all star, becoming who is he today.

Wade without Lebron in finals: 1 ring FMVP. Lebron with Wade in finals: swept.

For comparison, look at Kobe and how he transformed Gasol. An easy stat would be.. Gasol 0-20 in playoff games without Kobe?

bosh never does well against any good defensive big in playoffs. that is the reason for bosh and wade was hurt. why do you think hibbert only looks like a beast against miami? he averages 12-15 pts against other good teams with any good defensive big.

there you go. 2 simple and accurate answers.

[Eye Test]

bosh never does well against any good defensive big in playoffs. that is the reason for bosh and wade was hurt. why do you think hibbert only looks like a beast against miami? he averages 12-15 pts against other good teams with any good defensive big.

there you go. 2 simple and accurate answers.

trade that scrub dude, trade him!

[SamuraiSWISH]

Wade had two good games the whole series

Same with LeBron. Game 7, and Game 4 ... everything else was bad. His game 1 was decent from an all around numbers perspective, but comes across hollow when at no point did he assert his will on the game to take over and try to win it for Miami.

Wade won them a pivotal game 4 on the road, Ray Allen saved their season in game 6, and LeBron won them game 7 ... with very clutch supplemental boost from Wade. Neither of Wade's 2 good games were padded in garbage time when the game was already won like LeBron's game 4 box score.

No revisionist history here.