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Coach
Re: Will Cleveland need to trade Waiters?
Originally Posted by Cocaine80s
I don't think they can get any other guy like him right now that can take over games whenever the big 3 are off or not on the court.
Dude ...
How often would
Kyrie Irving
LeBron James
and
Kevin Love
All be having "off nights" at the same exact time? Chances are slime.
This isn't 2 offensive weapons, that's 3 major guns who can put the ball in the bucket. Waiters is never going to be able to play to his strengths at the same time as all those guys. Sure he can add some firepower ... but IMO he should come off the bench, Microwave Johnson style.
Otherwise I feel like on the court with Kyrie, LeBron, and Love he's useless. I rather have dimension with players who can catch / shoot, and stretch the floor with driving lanes for Kyrie or LeBron. Guys like Ray Allen, Mike Miller, etc.
You have 2 of the absolute best players off the bounce in the league. Maybe THE best now. You need less players who have to have the ball in their hand in order to get rhythm offensively.
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Playoff Rondo
Re: Will Cleveland need to trade Waiters?
Originally Posted by SamuraiSWISH
How do you not see the potential for combustion with him on the roster? He was beefing with Kyrie Irving last year when nothing was at stake.
Why? He's a combo guard who needs the ball in his hands.
Now you've got LeBron, and Love? The ability to compete for championships. Waiters has been itching to spread his wings as a solo act for sometime. I don't think he has the intelligence, or skill set to adapt to much superior players. He's already proven to be a difficult character guy.
Wouldn't you rather have someone who knew their niche, and gave a more defined skill set that could adapt to the big three core of Irving / LeBron / Love?
Yeah, because I'm sure Dion is going into this season with the mentality that he's going to be a "solo act" playing alongside LeBron James.
Simply ridiculous. Dion has looked great in the preseason from what I've seen. And he has the invaluable ability to create his own shot. He will be what James Harden was to OKC before being shipped out.
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Re: Will Cleveland need to trade Waiters?
Originally Posted by SamuraiSWISH
Dude ...
How often would
Kyrie Irving
LeBron James
and
Kevin Love
All be having "off nights" at the same exact time? Chances are slime.
This isn't 2 offensive weapons, that's 3 major guns who can put the ball in the bucket. Waiters is never going to be able to play to his strengths at the same time as all those guys. Sure he can add some firepower ... but IMO he should come off the bench, Microwave Johnson style.
Otherwise I feel like on the court with Kyrie, LeBron, and Love he's useless. I rather have dimension with players who can catch / shoot, and stretch the floor with driving lanes for Kyrie or LeBron. Guys like Ray Allen, Mike Miller, etc.
You have 2 of the absolute best players off the bounce in the league. Maybe THE best now. You need less players who have to have the ball in their hand in order to get rhythm offensively.
Waiters is good man. All I'm saying is it would be retarded to trade this guy. Plus Ray might come to Cleveland so who knows, they might get their catch and shoot guy with him
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Coach
Re: Will Cleveland need to trade Waiters?
Originally Posted by Doranku
Yeah, because I'm sure Dion is going into this season with the mentality that he's going to be a "solo act" playing alongside LeBron James.
Did I say that? But if he's improved yet again, he's going to have an itchy trigger finger. He already leads Cleveland thus far in preseason in shot attempts. I don't think that's a great idea. Now off the bench? He's perfect. But I don't think his ego could take coming off the pine.
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NBA All-star
Re: Will Cleveland need to trade Waiters?
nah, never trade guys who can get their own shot off. And especially if they are under rookie contract.
Waiters will do work when Lebron/Kyrie are on the bench. No more of that Miami basketball where when Lebron or Wade went to the bench they were left there with guys not skilled enough to do anything.
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Re: Will Cleveland need to trade Waiters?
Originally Posted by SamuraiSWISH
Did I say that? But if he's improved yet again, he's going to have an itchy trigger finger. He already leads Cleveland thus far in preseason in shot attempts. I don't think that's a great idea. Now off the bench? He's perfect. But I don't think his ego could take coming off the pine.
thats because he's the only one of the "big 4" that played every game of the preseason
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NBA Legend
Re: Will Cleveland need to trade Waiters?
Originally Posted by SamuraiSWISH
How do you not see the potential for combustion with him on the roster? He was beefing with Kyrie Irving last year when nothing was at stake.
It's easy to get irritated and upset when you're losing a lot.
Winning changes attitudes.
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Local High School Star
Re: Will Cleveland need to trade Waiters?
Waiters ability to adapt to his role with Bron at the helm will be no problem. No need to worry.
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Local High School Star
Re: Will Cleveland need to trade Waiters?
Originally Posted by SamuraiSWISH
Did I say that? But if he's improved yet again, he's going to have an itchy trigger finger. He already leads Cleveland thus far in preseason in shot attempts. I don't think that's a great idea. Now off the bench? He's perfect. But I don't think his ego could take coming off the pine.
Does it matter? All that does is increase Cavs rebounds per game.
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Child, please
Re: Will Cleveland need to trade Waiters?
If Waiters was getting upset with his lack of shots last year, he's in for a rude surprise this season.
I really think you're going to start hearing some rumbling from him as the season goes on.
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Curry fam
Re: Will Cleveland need to trade Waiters?
Yep. Need another 3 and D player.
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Banned
Re: Will Cleveland need to trade Waiters?
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Re: Will Cleveland need to trade Waiters?
Originally Posted by navy
Yep. Need another 3 and D player.
and you got JR smith
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Banned
Re: Will Cleveland need to trade Waiters?
Originally Posted by Mr.Kite
and you got JR smith
and Shump for D
Last edited by 305Baller; 01-12-2015 at 03:23 AM.
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Coach
Re: Will Cleveland need to trade Waiters?
Originally Posted by 305Baller
This was on the $$$
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