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    Default Midrange rules in the clutch

    We saw it from Harden tonight.

    It's important to remember that layups/dunks can be prevented, and so can 3-pointers.

    But players can ALWAYS toss up an off-balance midrange jumpshot with a defender draped all over - a defense can't prevent that, which is why most game-winners are midrange jumpshots.

    And who ruled the midrange?... Who had arguably the greatest midrange jumpshooting season of all-time in 1997?... You already know - the GOAT did.. the GOAT had a goat-level midrange jumpshot.

    Btw, I saw a few highlights from Harden tonight, and MY GOODNESS.... Iggy is too slow and can't guard Harden AT ALL - a SG like Harden is just too quick - Harden can create space against Iggy anytime he wants... Makes me wonder what the GOAT's athleticism and midrange jumpshot would do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    We saw it from Harden tonight.

    It's important to remember that layups/dunks can be prevented, and so can 3-pointers.

    But players can ALWAYS toss up an off-balance midrange jumpshot with a defender draped all over - a defense can't prevent that, which is why most game-winners are midrange jumpshots.

    And who ruled the midrange?... Who had arguably the greatest midrange jumpshooting season of all-time in 1997?... You already know - the GOAT did.. the GOAT had a goat-level midrange jumpshot.

    Btw, I saw a few highlights from Harden tonight, and MY GOODNESS.... Iggy is too slow and can't guard Harden AT ALL - a SG like Harden is just too quick - Harden can create space against Iggy anytime he wants... Makes me wonder what the GOAT athleticism and midrange jumpshot would do.
    you like it because is was push off like mj did

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    Default Re: Midrange rules in the clutch

    I thought you don't watch today's NBA.


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    Default Re: Midrange rules in the clutch

    Quote Originally Posted by Achilleas
    you like it because is was push off like mj did
    Push-offs are legal on last-second shots..

    See Reggie Miller in Game 4 of 1998 ECF for perhaps the greatest push-off-game-winner of all time (and the most obvious)... and he pushed off on the GOAT no less.

    Regardless, Harden was dragging Iggy all over the court tonight.. Iggy simply can't guard quick SG's - he's better off against slower SF's.. Harden's quickness and offensive skill created space with EASE - he toyed with Iggy... We never saw Lebron create space like that - he simply doesn't have the SG-quickness or handle.
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    Default Re: Midrange rules in the clutch

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    Push-offs are legal on last-second shots..

    See Reggie Miller in Game 4 of 1998 ECF for perhaps the greatest push-off-game-winner of all time (and the most obvious)... and he pushed off on the GOAT no less.

    Regardless, Harden was dragging Iggy all over the court tonight.. Iggy simply can't guard quick SG's - he's better off against slower SF's.. Harden's quickness and offensive skill created space with EASE - he toyed with Iggy... We never saw Lebron create space like that - he simply doesn't have the SG-quickness or handle.
    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    Push-offs are legal on last-second shots..

    See Reggie Miller in Game 4 of 1998 ECF for perhaps the greatest push-off-game-winner of all time (and the most obvious)... and he pushed off on the GOAT no less.

    Regardless, Harden was dragging Iggy all over the court tonight.. Iggy simply can't guard quick SG's - he's better off against slower SF's.. Harden's quickness and offensive skill created space with EASE - he toyed with Iggy... We never saw Lebron create space like that - he simply doesn't have the SG-quickness or handle.
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    Go **** yourself with a rusty hammer.

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    Best game of the playoffs so far.

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    Default Re: Midrange rules in the clutch

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    And who ruled the midrange?... Who had arguably the greatest midrange jumpshooting season of all-time in 1997?... You already know - the GOAT did.. the GOAT had a goat-level midrange jumpshot.


    I love this 3ball guy. Dude is so entertaining

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    Default Re: Midrange rules in the clutch

    Quote Originally Posted by Achilleas
    thanks
    that was tongue-in-cheek, but still true.. everyone knows that the refs swallow their whistle on the last play.

    jordan actually didn't push-off on russell - no one's forearm is strong enough to push someone off in that fashion.

    seriously - [COLOR="blue"]do the motion with your arm that jordan did to russell[/COLOR]... see??... no one's forearm is strong enough to push someone off like that.. russell fell back because he got SHOOK - the video shows that clearly.

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    Default Re: Midrange rules in the clutch

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    that was tongue-in-cheek, but still true.. everyone knows that the refs swallow their whistle on the last play.

    jordan actually didn't push-off on russell - no one's forearm is strong enough to push someone off in that fashion.

    seriously - [COLOR="blue"]do the motion with your arm that jordan did to russell[/COLOR]... see??... no one's forearm is strong enough to push someone off like that.. russell fell back because he got SHOOK - the video shows that clearly.
    Any more excuses? MJ's GOAT moment is an offensive foul.

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    Default Re: Midrange rules in the clutch

    Quote Originally Posted by aj1987
    Any more excuses? MJ's GOAT moment is an offensive foul.


    I can tell you didn't do the motion with your arm

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball


    I can tell you didn't do the motion with your arm
    Yeah, I can tell you make a lot of moves with your arm while look up MJ's highlights.

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    Default Re: Midrange rules in the clutch

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    [COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR][COLOR="Navy"]NBA.COM'S STATS ON
    "MIDRANGE" EFFICIENCY
    [COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR](all shots inside 3-pt line but outside paint)
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    [COLOR="White"].......................[/COLOR]Midrange Efficiency .

    [COLOR="darkRed"]M Jordan. 1997:[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] 48.9%.. 588/1202 [COLOR="DarkGreen"] <---- the GOAT standard[/COLOR]
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    Harden 2016:[COLOR="White"].....[/COLOR] 40.5%.. 128/316

    Westbrook 2015:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 36.9%.. 164/445
    Westbrook 2016:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 42.4%.. 129/304

    D Wade.. 2006:[COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR] 38.4%.. 174/403
    D Wade.. 2012:[COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR] 39.5%.. 115/291
    D Wade.. 2013:[COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR] 38.9%.. 144/370
    D Wade.. 2016:[COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR] 36.4%.. 143/393

    Derozan. 2016:[COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR] 37.5%.. 183/488

    Butler. 2016:[COLOR="White"].......[/COLOR] 35.9%.. 113/315

    Lebron.. 2009:[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR] 36.8%.. 193/525
    Lebron.. 2010:[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR] 38.8%.. 188/444
    Lebron.. 2011:[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR] 44.6%.. 217/487
    Lebron.. 2012:[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR] 42.3%.. 188/444
    Lebron.. 2013:[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR] 43.2%.. 174/403
    Lebron.. 2014:[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR] 38.5%.. 126/327
    Lebron.. 2015:[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR] 37.0%.. 127/343
    Lebron.. 2016:[COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR] 37.1%.. 96/259
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    Default Re: Midrange rules in the clutch

    Why did you leave out his '98 season, [COLOR="Black"]f[/COLOR]uckwit?

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    Default Re: Midrange rules in the clutch

    Why did you leave out his '98 season, [COLOR="Black"]f[/COLOR]uckwit?

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