Kobe Bryant is only 1 game winning shot away from matching Michael Jordan

[BonyFaceNDong]

How many times have Michael's teams blown out the competition to the point of no game winner being necessary?

How many times have Kobe's teams blown out the competition to the point of no game winner being necessary?

How many game winning shots has Michael missed?

How many game winning shots has Kobe missed?

Until you answer all of these questions, this thread is meaningless. Not only that, but Kobe throws games so he can attempt game winning shots. Michael only cared about beating the hell out of people.

Agree. And one more thing: How many game winning assists Jordan had in playoffs alone? Like NBA final winning assists to Paxon and Kerr etc.

How many game winning assists Kobe ever had in his career?

[2LeTTeRS KD]

DUDE. teams in hjordans era scored more points. what is your point

Team's in Jordan's era also took more shots. Again you're point makes no sense.

[yeesterbunny]

- how many times has Kobes teams blown out the competition? ( kobe sat over 20 forth quarters just this season )

if anything. Kobes played on a higher percentage of title contending teams in his career.

- Probably as many as Jordans missed

- why are you so mad? just accept the fact that it was inevitable for Kobe to eventualy reach this mile stone.

Higher percentage of title contending teams? I think you're just in a phase where you think "current is better". MJ faced many oppositions along his way, and he obliterated them all. People only remember winners, and Jordan was the most dominant winner of the 90's. Maybe that is why you are not aware of that, despite era, there are always great title contending teams.

What milestone? Kobe havent even won a champ with himself being the best player on the team. Of course, Kobe still has time to prove himself, and it seems like he's the closest to jordan that we've seen. But until he proves himself, please dont say things like "it is inevitable for kobe to eventually reach this milestone". It's possible, but I highly doubt it.

[abdubaba]

You're judging defense by points scored? Wow. Thats very dumb, as well as misleading. You can't judge D on how many points are scored in a game, try comparing field goal percentages. Pace is just as important in the number of points scored in a game as quality of defense, percentage is not affected by it therefore making it a much better indicator.

at the end teams scored a whoping 2.7 more point per game. that is a lot men. open ur eyes

[2LeTTeRS KD]

at the end teams scored a whoping 2.7 more point per game. that is a lot men. open ur eyes

Open my eyes? If you really think D now is better than it was in the 80s and 90s you didn't watch basketball then. What has happened is defense had advanced so much faster than offense had that David Stern changed the rules of the game to open the game up offensively. Basically the same thing that happened in the passing game in the NFL where basically you can't touch a receiver any more at all without pass interference being called that has inflated all the stats of receivers has happened in the NBA as well.

[abdubaba]

Open my eyes? If you really think D now is better than it was in the 80s and 90s you didn't watch basketball then. What has happened is defense had advanced so much faster than offense had that David Stern changed the rules of the game to open the game up offensively. Basically the same thing that happened in the passing game in the NFL where basically you can't touch a receiver any more at all without pass interference being called that has inflated all the stats of receivers has happened in the NBA as well.

duhhh. ur way teams will be scoring more now. 2.7 more PPG over a 20 year period is a lot.

there are now better athletes and better structured defences. teams those days were just pretenders who sucked at defence.

2.7 MORE PPG. do you know how hard that is to make up for?

geezzzz

[mjbulls23]

teams those days were just pretenders who sucked at defence.

Michael Jordan vs 80's defenses, breakdown & explained.



Kobe Bryant's 81 point game - great offense??? bad defense??

[Psileas]

1) The list is somewhat flawed in that some of these baskets won't be accepted by everyone as game-winning shots.

2) Game-winning FT's should count as well. Scoring points matters, not scoring exclusively FG's.

3) These lists would mean something if they included game-winners by all clutch players in history. I'm sure Reggie, West, Bird, Havlicek, Magic, Kareem or even Horry, DJ and Stockton, all these guys had a lot of game-winners, as well. I read somewhere that Bird alone scored game winning baskets in the final 5 seconds of 11 games.
Actually, considering that Reggie never played for really dominant teams, he may actually have more game-winners than anyone ever.

[Da_Realist]

Y'all are getting suckered. Some dude finds some stat that says Kobe is near MJ on something and everyone on this board goes crazy trying to defend MJ. Like a dog chasing it's own tail, you're gonna get nowhere but frustrated.

MJ > Kobe. Not because of whatever stats someone can come up with. It's not close. Allow Kobe fans to bask in the fact that some of Kobe's stats *may* stack up in some way, shape, form or fashion.

[Laker4Lyfe]

[ryantheporchkid]

Michael Jordan vs 80's defenses, breakdown & explained.



Kobe Bryant's 81 point game - great offense??? bad defense??

those were great great videos.

[brandonislegend]

+1

[~LA's fine$t~]

those were great great videos.

Actually they weren't, they were made by someone of Loki's caliber who has nothing better to do then belittle anything Kobe has done through out his career...no surprise another insecure Bulls fan posted that garbage on here.

As far as the thread itself, this is getting really old now...you kids need to get a life, seriously.

[Pujolsmj23]

MJs game-winners that should b counted werent.EXAMPLES!!!! 1992 ECF Game 6 Game-winning drive jumper with 37 seconds left.Sends them 2 1992 NBA FINALS.11/13/89 vs cavs game-winning layup 39 seconds left...11/30/84 vs Clippers game-winning layup with 59 seconds left.2/21/03 game-winner 43 seconds left...4/24/98 vs nets PLAYOFFS 43 seconds left game-winner.6/11/97 NBA FINALS GAME 5 FLU GAME Game-winning 3 25 seconds left...11/27/95 29 seconds left game-winning jumper...11/24/90 vs nuggets 37 seconds left game-winning jumper.4/7/96 vs Magic 56 seconds left gamewinning jumper.2/15/96 vs pistons 50 seconds left game winning jumper.1988 Playoffs game 2 vs cavs Gamewinning jumper with 59 seconds left...11/9/92 vs pacers gamewinning jumper with 50 seconds left... I COULD GO ON BUT THESE R NOT GAME SEALERS THESE BROKE THE TIE AND R listed as game-winners today and arent listed 4 MJ.NOTICE the 1992 ECF SHOT ON Cavs THATS NEVER SEEN OR SHOWN IT WAS IN PLAYOFFS 2 GO 2 THE NBA FINALS AND ITS NOT LISTED OR REMEMBERED OR HIS FLU GAME 3..THese r just a few Ive listed.MJ hit a alot more than u think .Look these games up 2 see if im lying....MJ IS CLUTCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[KINGD]

Yup.Just another reason why Kobe is the G.O.A.T.