NBA all-time first team. Who plays center?

[AirFederer]

The one who was not only the best center, Mr Record breaker, but also the killer of lions, seducer of 20 000 women, the strongest man ever, the fastest runner i sports ever (also barefoot ), the highest leaper, world class volleyballplayer, and possibly goat heavy weight boxer (if Ali didn`t back out - afraid much )

So this guy

[kennethgriffin]

is this thread a joke?


the list is based on careers and people are considering anyone but kareem?


cap has a better overall career than mike




and if OP's list wasnt based on careers and instead primes then big O would be the PG, elgin baylor would be SF, and charles barkley would play PF




shut this mother f*cking thread down

[kennethgriffin]

careers:

PG - magic
SG - jordan
SF - bird
PF - Duncan
C - Kareem


primes:

PG - big O
SG - jordan/kobe
SF - Baylor
PF - barkley
C - Wilt/shaq

[aj1987]

careers:

PG - magic
SG - jordan
SF - bird
PF - Duncan
C - Kareem


primes:

PG - [COLOR="red"]big O [/COLOR]
SG - jordan/[COLOR="Red"]kobe[/COLOR]
SF - [COLOR="red"]Baylor[/COLOR]
PF - [COLOR="red"]barkley[/COLOR]
C - Wilt/shaq

[kennethgriffin]

you do realize if careers arent part of the equation and primes are the main deciding factor...:


PG - big O ( 31/13/11 ) >>>>>> ( 24/6/12 ) magic
SF - baylor ( 38/19/5 ) >>>>>> ( 29/10/6 ) bird
PF - Barkley ( 28/12/3 ) >>>>> ( 23/12/3 ) Duncan




take away all success and big O, baylor, barkley are the right choices


know your history son. do a bit of research before using gif responses




and kobe at his best = 35/5/5 modern era + 81 modern era + out scoring teams by himself + 62 in 3 quarters while mike only ever scored 61 through 4 quarters... kobe at his best is right there with MJ

[aj1987]

you do realize if careers arent part of the equation and primes are the main deciding factor...:


PG - big O ( 31/13/11 ) >>>>>> ( 24/6/12 ) magic
SF - baylor ( 38/19/5 ) >>>>>> ( 29/10/6 ) bird
PF - Barkley ( 28/12/3 ) >>>>> ( 23/12/3 ) Duncan




take away all success and big O, baylor, barkley are the right choices


know your history son. do a bit of research before using gif responses




and kobe at his best = 35/5/5 modern era + 81 modern era + out scoring teams by himself + 62 in 3 quarters while mike only ever scored 61 through 4 quarters... kobe at his best is right there with MJ

I wouldn't except a dumb[COLOR="Black"]f[/COLOR]uck like you to understand unit cohesion and the ability of players to play defense.

A team of Magic/Jordan/Bird/Duncan/Shaq would take a massive steaming pile of shit on that team of yours. There's literally no one on your team who can stop Magic/Duncan/Bird. Meanwhile, Duncan can absolutely shut down Chuck and Bird can slow down Baylor. Heck, replace Bird with Pippen and Baylor is getting shutdown as well.

Wow! Kobe had 2 games better than MJ. How many 60 point games, 50 point games, 40 PPG+ series, 40 PPG PO's, 35 PPG PO runs, etc?

MJ >>>>>>>>>> Kobe and it's not even remotely close.

[kennethgriffin]

I wouldn't except a dumb[COLOR="Black"]f[/COLOR]uck like you to understand unit cohesion and the ability of players to play defense.

A team of Magic/Jordan/Bird/Duncan/Shaq would take a massive steaming pile of shit on that team of yours. There's literally no one on your team who can stop Magic/Duncan/Bird. Meanwhile, Duncan can absolutely shut down Chuck and Bird can slow down Baylor. Heck, replace Bird with Pippen and Baylor is getting shutdown as well.

Wow! Kobe had 2 games better than MJ. How many 60 point games, 50 point games, 40 PPG+ series, 40 PPG PO's, 35 PPG PO runs, etc?

MJ >>>>>>>>>> Kobe and it's not even remotely close.

you mean expect right?


and wtf since when are we talking about how the all time 5 would play together?


if we're just making teams to compete thats a whole different story than the all time best 5


why would you have magic johnson or any ball dominant play making PG that runs fast break basketball if you dont have complimentary players?


that wouldnt gell with half court iso guys like jordan etc...



if youre putting together a team to win you have to consider defensive specialists and not pick all offensive weapons


a team can have at most 3 offensive juggernauts on the floor at once

if youre building around magic you need shooters with defense that run the floor and are unselfish

if you have guys like bird and jordan or an iso offensive center like wilt/shaq... then you need an unselfish spot up three point shooting defensive minded PG



which is why shaq/jordan/kobe types won with PG's like kerr/fisher

kobe and pippen brought up the ball and were the scoring/playmakers

jordan and shaq were the post up guys kicking it out


learn a bit about basketball.. then get back to me

[kennethgriffin]

if we're making a team based on how well they would play together and offensive/defensive cohesiveness

i'm going with


PG - stockton ( best offensive/defensive PG ever with spot up 3pt shooting )
SG - Kobe ( best high volume scorer with D that can co exist with shaq )
SF - Bird ( unselfish with passing/D. likes kobe and wants to play with him )
PF - Rodman ( dont need more offense. just rebounding and D )
C - Shaq ( works best with kobe )


this is the perfect team that IMO would complinent each other best

[aj1987]

you mean expect right?


and wtf since when are we talking about how the all time 5 would play together?


if we're just making teams to compete thats a whole different story than the all time best 5


why would you have magic johnson or any ball dominant play making PG that runs fast break basketball if you dont have complimentary players?


that wouldnt gell with half court iso guys like jordan etc...

Stop talking out your ass.

if youre putting together a team to win you have to consider defensive specialists and not pick all offensive weapons

And that's exactly what I did. I have one of the GOAT perimeter defenders, one of the GOAT interior defenders, and another 2 very good-elite defenders in Shaq and Bird.

a team can have at most 3 offensive juggernauts on the floor at once

Ok...?

if youre building around magic you need shooters with defense that run the floor and are unselfish

Bird and MJ and good shooters, dolt.

if you have guys like bird and jordan or an iso offensive center like wilt/shaq... then you need an unselfish spot up three point shooting defensive minded PG

Again, stop talking out your ass. You literally have no basketball knowledge.

kobe and pippen brought up the ball and were the scoring/playmakers

jordan and shaq were the post up guys kicking it out

learn a bit about basketball.. then get back to me

MJ and Bird can play off the ball and they're VERY good at it. As is Duncan.

Seems like the only basketball you know is scoring and more scoring.

EDIT: You do know that Baylor averaged 24 shots a game and O averaged 20, right? First you hide behind stats, when I bring up defense and chemistry, you start babbling like an idiot.

[AirFederer]

careers:

PG - magic
SG - jordan
SF - bird
PF - Duncan
C - Kareem


primes:

PG - big O
SG - jordan/kobe
SF - Baylor
PF - barkley
C - Wilt/shaq

[kennethgriffin]

Stop talking out your ass.




And that's exactly what I did. I have one of the GOAT perimeter defenders, one of the GOAT interior defenders, and another 2 very good-elite defenders in Shaq and Bird.



Ok...?


Bird and MJ and good shooters, dolt.


Again, stop talking out your ass. You literally have no basketball knowledge.


MJ and Bird can play off the ball and they're VERY good at it. As is Duncan.

Seems like the only basketball you know is scoring and more scoring.

EDIT: You do know that Baylor averaged 24 shots a game and O averaged 20, right? First you hide behind stats, when I bring up defense and chemistry, you start babbling like an idiot.

jordan isnt a good outside shooter LOL


you need a guy like kobe if youre playing with dominant offensive post players


otherwise jordan has to stand on the other side of the court when shaq or wilt have the ball


kobe is the better choice on a super team



jordans wide open three point percentage with thousands of less attempts is still lower than kobe ( a high volume contested 3 point shooter )

kobes range is unlimited... you want shaq or wilt kicking it out to him

[RidonKs]

on that team? gimme young agile bill walton and call it a night.

tho the best guy for that team is clearly young sabonis


edit: though kg and young shaq would be better than any other possible combination imo, with those other starters

[aj1987]

jordan isnt a good outside shooter LOL


you need a guy like kobe if youre playing with dominant offensive post players

MJ is a MUCH better shooter than Kobe. Not even close.

Offensive post players? Bird, MJ, Magic, Shaq, and Duncan. All of them.

kobe is the better choice on a super team

Kobe is NEVER a better choice, when MJ is still available.

jordans wide open three point percentage with thousands of less attempts is still lower than kobe ( a high volume contested 3 point shooter )

Kobe, even more wide open for his 3's shoots 33.1% form the 3. MJ is at 33.2%. This doesn't take into account the mid-rarnge game, in which MJ makes Kobe look like a scrub.

kobes range is unlimited... you want shaq or wilt kicking it out to him

What does it matter when he's shooting the same % as MJ?

Oh, and MJ is a better post player, playmaker, defender, offball player, etc.. Kobe has literally no arguments over MJ.

[kennethgriffin]

MJ is a MUCH better shooter than Kobe. Not even close.

Offensive post players? Bird, MJ, Magic, Shaq, and Duncan. All of them.




Kobe is NEVER a better choice, when MJ is still available.


Kobe, even more wide open for his 3's shoots 33.1% form the 3. MJ is at 33.2%. This doesn't take into account the mid-rarnge game, in which MJ makes Kobe look like a scrub.


What does it matter when he's shooting the same % as MJ?

Oh, and MJ is a better post player, playmaker, defender, offball player, etc.. Kobe has literally no arguments over MJ.

stopped reading there. ignore list

[kennethgriffin]

on that team? gimme young agile bill walton and call it a night.

tho the best guy for that team is clearly young sabonis

wow. someone with a brain that can think outside the box