5 Rings

[Lensanity]

1. Less than 16 PPG and less than 37% in Finals
2. Rigged WCF
3. Most rigged championship in sports history
4. Celtics were inevitable to win it all until KG got hurt, Lakers got to play the Orlando Cupcakes led by leading scorer Hedo Turkeyglue
5. Kendrick Perkins (when he was good) missed game 7 so the Celtics couldn't rebound to save their lives in a game full of bricks led by brickmaster AKA Mr. 6/24. Joey Crawford carried LA in the 4th quarter.

What a career

[ShawkFactory]

Oh wow. I'll give you the 2002 WCF but otherwise...stick to smoking weed

[branslowski]

"2/6"

[TheMarkMadsen]

bran fans stay salty as fucc

[Young X]

You can do this with any great player to try and discredit them.

Duncan:

1. Faced 27-23 Knicks without Ewing in '99
2. Dallas was inevitable to win it all in '03 before Dirk got hurt
3. Went 10-27 in game 7 of the '05 finals and got "carried" by his teammates
4. Rigged 2007 WCSF
5. Ibaka missed 1st 2 games against the Spurs in '14

[Bandito]

Op is proof that pot is bad for you.

[ShawkFactory]

You can do this with any great player to try and discredit them.

Duncan:

1. Faced 27-23 Knicks without Ewing in '99
2. Dallas was inevitable to win it all in '03 before Dirk got hurt
3. Went 10-27 in game 7 of the '05 finals and got "carried" by his teammates
4. Rigged 2007 WCSF
5. Ibaka missed 1st 2 games against OKC in '14

Literally anyone

[Bandito]

You can do this with any great player to try and discredit them.

Duncan:

1. Faced 27-23 Knicks without Ewing in '99
2. Dallas was inevitable to win it all in '03 before Dirk got hurt
3. Went 10-27 in game 7 of the '05 finals and got "carried" by his teammates
4. Rigged 2007 WCSF
5. Ibaka missed 1st 2 games against OKC in '14

Didnt they win in 14?

[plowking]

Who cares?

He is a great player regardless. Like many Lakers though he is the beneficiary of great circumstance and is overrated in general. Same thing for Kareem and Magic, etc. If they never play for the Lakers, they aren't as highly regarded or talked about, hence not as high on the all time lists.

I remember people here talking about Kobe being top 10 all time around 2007... Wouldn't have been the case if he wasn't a Laker. 3 sidekick titles, no MVP's and a bunch of great numbers is what "the larger basketball fanbase" considered enough to be top 10. Basketball media and fans are most prevalent in NY and LA, so as soon as someone is close to greatness they leapfrog them up a bunch of spots.
I mean look at Wade now. 3 titles in which he played a bigger part than Kobe did in his 3 prior to winning the double after, a finals MVP, and a bunch of great numbers. Yet no one is putting him top 10 or close, are they? Nope, but they would if he had been a lifelong Laker.

[Lensanity]

You can do this with any great player to try and discredit them.

Duncan:

1. Faced 27-23 Knicks without Ewing in '99
2. Dallas was inevitable to win it all in '03 before Dirk got hurt
3. Went 10-27 in game 7 of the '05 finals and got "carried" by his teammates
4. Rigged 2007 WCSF
5. Ibaka missed 1st 2 games against OKC in '14

1. Agreed
2. Maybe
3. I'll give it to him. Not like he shot 6/24 or anything.
4. The 2007 Spurs championship was 100% rigged. Even Tim Donahue said this. The leader of officials of the Suns series (can't remember his name) basically made the refs rig it for SAS.
5.Spurs still would have beaten OKC.

[branslowski]

bran fans stay salty as fucc

I also like how "Orlando is cupcakes" when Kobe beats them, but when LeBron played against them, they wanna talk about what he did vs that GREAT defensive team led by the DPOY type Dwight Howard.

[Lensanity]

Who cares?

He is a great player regardless. Like many Lakers though he is the beneficiary of great circumstance and is overrated in general. Same thing for Kareem and Magic, etc. If they never play for the Lakers, they aren't as highly regarded or talked about, hence not as high on the all time lists.

I remember people here talking about Kobe being top 10 all time around 2007... Wouldn't have been the case if he wasn't a Laker. 3 sidekick titles, no MVP's and a bunch of great numbers is what "the larger basketball fanbase" considered enough to be top 10. Basketball media and fans are most prevalent in NY and LA, so as soon as someone is close to greatness they leapfrog them up a bunch of spots.
I mean look at Wade now. 3 titles in which he played a bigger part than Kobe did in his 3 prior to winning the double after, a finals MVP, and a bunch of great numbers. Yet no one is putting him top 10 or close, are they? Nope, but they would if he had been a lifelong Laker.

Fantastic post.

/thread

[JellyBean]

1. Less than 16 PPG and less than 37% in Finals
2. Rigged WCF
3. Most rigged championship in sports history
4. Celtics were inevitable to win it all until KG got hurt, Lakers got to play the Orlando Cupcakes led by leading scorer Hedo Turkeyglue
5. Kendrick Perkins (when he was good) missed game 7 so the Celtics couldn't rebound to save their lives in a game full of bricks led by brickmaster AKA Mr. 6/24. Joey Crawford carried LA in the 4th quarter.

What a career

[TheMarkMadsen]

Who cares?

apparently you

He is a great player regardless. Like many Lakers though he is the beneficiary of great circumstance and is overrated in general. Same thing for Kareem and Magic, etc. If they never play for the Lakers, they aren't as highly regarded or talked about, hence not as high on the all time lists.

I remember people here talking about Kobe being top 10 all time around 2007... Wouldn't have been the case if he wasn't a Laker. 3 sidekick titles, no MVP's and a bunch of great numbers is what "the larger basketball fanbase" considered enough to be top 10. Basketball media and fans are most prevalent in NY and LA, so as soon as someone is close to greatness they leapfrog them up a bunch of spots.
I mean look at Wade now. 3 titles in which he played a bigger part than Kobe did in his 3 prior to winning the double after, a finals MVP, and a bunch of great numbers. Yet no one is putting him top 10 or close, are they? Nope, but they would if he had been a lifelong Laker.

WTF is this shit, 01 Kobe & 02 Kobe's championship runs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wade in 12 and 13

[catch24]

Who cares?

He is a great player regardless. Like many Lakers though he is the beneficiary of great circumstance and is overrated in general. Same thing for Kareem and Magic, etc. If they never play for the Lakers, they aren't as highly regarded or talked about, hence not as high on the all time lists.

I remember people here talking about Kobe being top 10 all time around 2007... Wouldn't have been the case if he wasn't a Laker. 3 sidekick titles, no MVP's and a bunch of great numbers is what "the larger basketball fanbase" considered enough to be top 10. Basketball media and fans are most prevalent in NY and LA, so as soon as someone is close to greatness they leapfrog them up a bunch of spots.
I mean look at Wade now. 3 titles in which he played a bigger part than Kobe did in his 3 prior to winning the double after, a finals MVP, and a bunch of great numbers. Yet no one is putting him top 10 or close, are they? Nope, but they would if he had been a lifelong Laker.

Talk about being intellectually dishonest...

The bold is completely laughable. Wade in 2012 and 2013 didn't play a "bigger role" to the Heat winning championships than Kobe did for his team in 2001 and 2002.

Kobe was a top 3 player in 2001. Wade? Maybe top 5 in 2012, but in 2013 not even in the top 10.