Chef Curry or Wade all time?

[mehyaM24]

You are setting aside the whole point...Curry would not be this Curry if not for the team he is on. You're saying he's so much better this year and raising up the entirety of the team...well they were 2nd in offense and 1st in defense last year. Curry is doing what he is doing on a stacked team and that's just a fact. You throw him on that 2009 heat team and I guarantee he can't get that team into the playoffs. He can't hide defensively there...WADE was the best defensive player on that team and he can't come close to duplicating that. We'd also see how easy the offense comes when you're playing with those Heat bums and not the Warriors players.

on the flipside, curry's offense is SO GOOD that he would've taken that heat team, and made them a perennial top 5 offense.

i mean really, the warriors have been the best offense with luke walton coaching.

luke walton...

[knicksman]

Why are people arguing with aj1987?

I already owned that troll

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=387895

The guy is an all time great idiot

[WayOfWade]

You shouldn't put Career Totals given that Wade has played 6 more years and All-Star Game MVPs are a dumb comparison.

Do you see the title of the thread, who is greater all-time? Wade's career vs Curry's career, who has done better and more overall? The fact that Wade has played 6 more years is pretty much what gives him the edge all time

[knicksman]

curry won in a legit era while wade won in an era where nba is manufacturing superstars

[Smoke117]

Why are people arguing with aj1987?

I already owned that troll

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=387895

The guy is an all time great idiot

That's really hilarious coming from you.

[hiphopfan777]

Wade isbetter. He never had a winning streak snapped by a crappy d league bucks team qith mcw as starter

[aj1987]

crackhead,

kobe played ~7 more minutes a game, and for the year, about 900 total more minutes than odom.

never mind the fact odom is a 6th man who plays a completely different role.

swagr mediates this "flaw" and adjusts the necessary impact available - as i said.



please read what is being posted.

by ignoring minutes with rapm, this would be like somebody using fg% and completely disregarding a players volume, then claim tyson chandler is the most efficient player all time.

silly right?

and again, nowhere am i saying fg% = rapm, or that they're comparable.

do i need to draw it up for you next time around?

Ugh! Can't argue with someone who doesn't watch games and judges players based on "advanced" stats.

Why are people arguing with aj1987?

I already owned that troll


The guy is an all time great idiot

You said Melo is better than LeBron and I'm the idiot? That's just 1 of nearly 5k retarded posts from you. Stop posting, dumbass.

[mehyaM24]

Ugh! Can't argue with someone who doesn't watch games and judges players based on "advanced" stats.

i watch basketball and use advanced stats to back up my opinion.

like i asked before - why not do both? the more information the better.

[aj1987]

i watch basketball and use advanced stats to back up my opinion.

like i asked before - why not do both? the more information the better.

Because I don't like to use RAPM to figure out who's more dominant and who the better player is. Kobe was one of the most dominant players of all time and RAPM is not particularly kind to him. It's just a flat out retarded stat.

[Smoke117]

Because I don't like to use RAPM to figure out who's more dominant and who the better player is. Kobe was one of the most dominant players of all time and RAPM is not particularly kind to him. It's just a flat out retarded stat.

No, Kobe is one of the most overrated players of all time. Advanced stats tell you that if you aren't sharp enough to get it with the eye test.

[mehyaM24]

Because I don't like to use RAPM to figure out who's more dominant and who the better player is. Kobe was one of the most dominant players of all time and RAPM is not particularly kind to him. It's just a flat out retarded stat.

kobe led the league in rapm circa 2008 (check the swagr tab). he was second in 2009 behind lebron, and top 3-4 in 2010 with wade & lebron.

looks fair to me, and comfortably backs my opinion that lebron has essentially been the better player since ~2009.

No, Kobe is one of the most overrated players of all time. Advanced stats tell you that if you aren't sharp enough to get it with the eye test.

he is, but advanced stats not being "fair" to him is a myth. prime kobe has always been a top 3-5 player in the league.

[aj1987]

kobe led the league in rapm circa 2008 (check the swagr tab). he was second in 2009 behind lebron, and top 3-4 in 2010 with wade & lebron.

looks fair to me, and comfortably backs my opinion that lebron has essentially been the better player since ~2009.

We're using swagr now? What the **** is that shit?

Kobe was 7th, 6th, and 8th from '08-'10 according to RAPM.

he is, but advanced stats not being "fair" to him is a myth. prime kobe has always been a top 3-5 player in the league.

'06-'10 Kobe was never worse than 3rd. Probably the best player in '06 and '07. Top 2 in '08. Top 3 in '09 and '10.

[mehyaM24]

We're using swagr now? What the **** is that shit?

Kobe was 7th, 6th, and 8th from '08-'10 according to RAPM.

its rapm - just with adjusted minutes.

read the last page where i explained the definition. there's a reason the tab is right there next to the splits.

'06-'10 Kobe was never worse than 3rd. Probably the best player in '06 and '07. Top 2 in '08. Top 3 in '09 and '10.

from 08-10, he was top 3 - according to rapm as well.

[ArbitraryWater]

Why are people arguing with aj1987?

I already owned that troll

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=387895

The guy is an all time great idiot

I know aj ain't the most calm or smartest but the irony here