So Wade was only a superstar for 4 seasons??

[dubeta]

2006, 2007, 2009, 2010



Dafuq, why do people put him in the top 3 SGs of all time?


I'm sure Vince, Tmac, and Clyde have been superstars for more seasons. Same with Dr. j, Wilkins, Elgin Baylor and other star perimeter players



Is Wades career too based on those 4 seasons (3 out of those 4 seasons he lost in the 1st round FYI) instead of his entire career arc?

[JT123]

Pretty amazing what one highly controversial Finals series has done for his legacy. He was a great scorer in his day, but without Shaq and Lebron he would LITERALLY be another Tmac.

[kennethgriffin]

lebron = 0 titles without top 26 all time player dwyane wade


kobe = 2 titles without a top 80 all time sidekick

[Dr Hawk]

lebron = 0 titles without top 20 all time sidekick dwyane wade


kobe = 2 titles without a top 80 all time sidekick

Pau was ROBBED in 2010

[kennethgriffin]

1. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 1.0000
2. Michael Jordan* 1.0000
3. Bill Russell* 1.0000
4. Wilt Chamberlain* 1.0000
5. Kobe Bryant 1.0000
6. Tim Duncan 1.0000
7. Shaquille O'Neal 1.0000
8. John Havlicek* 1.0000
9. Oscar Robertson* 1.0000
10. Bob Cousy* 1.0000
11. Kevin Garnett 1.0000
12. Jerry West* 1.0000
13. Magic Johnson* 1.0000
14. Karl Malone* 1.0000
15. LeBron James 1.0000
16. Hakeem Olajuwon* 1.0000
17. Larry Bird* 1.0000
18. Elvin Hayes* 1.0000
19. David Robinson* 1.0000
20. Moses Malone* 1.0000
21. Dolph Schayes* 1.0000
22. Dirk Nowitzki 1.0000
23. John Stockton* 1.0000
24. Bob Pettit* 1.0000
25. Isiah Thomas* 1.0000
26. Dwyane Wade 0.9999
27. Charles Barkley* 0.9998
28. Allen Iverson 0.9998
29. Elgin Baylor* 0.9998
30. Paul Arizin* 0.9998
31. Jason Kidd 0.9997
32. Chris Paul 0.9997
33. Sam Jones* 0.9995
34. George Mikan* 0.9995
35. Gary Payton* 0.9994
36. Patrick Ewing* 0.9994
37. Julius Erving* 0.9991
38. Scottie Pippen* 0.9990
39. Ray Allen 0.9987
40. Clyde Drexler* 0.9978
41. Paul Pierce 0.9974
42. Hal Greer* 0.9974
43. Bill Sharman* 0.9970
44. Robert Parish* 0.9966
45. Rick Barry* 0.9950
46. Walt Frazier* 0.9949
47. Slater Martin* 0.9943
48. Tom Heinsohn* 0.9938
49. Neil Johnston* 0.9926
50. Dwight Howard 0.9893
51. Lenny Wilkens* 0.9880
52. Ed Macauley* 0.9873
53. Chris Bosh 0.9864
54. Kevin McHale* 0.9864
55. Dave Cowens* 0.9864
56. Bob McAdoo* 0.9863
57. Tiny Archibald* 0.9842
58. Steve Nash 0.9829
59. Kevin Durant 0.9821
60. Dominique Wilkins* 0.9814
61. George Gervin* 0.9787
62. Vern Mikkelsen* 0.9771
63. Willis Reed* 0.9768
64. Dikembe Mutombo* 0.9691
65. Jerry Lucas* 0.9608
66. Tracy McGrady 0.9555
67. Bob Lanier* 0.9494
68. Vince Carter 0.9455
69. Larry Foust 0.9420
70. Tony Parker 0.9386
71. Chet Walker* 0.9378
72. Bailey Howell* 0.9362
73. Alonzo Mourning* 0.9310
74. Alex English* 0.9235
75. Dave Bing* 0.9188
76. James Worthy* 0.9077
77. Grant Hill 0.8911
78. Adrian Dantley* 0.8862
79. Carmelo Anthony 0.8745
80. Jack Sikma 0.8698
81. Jo Jo White* 0.8692
82. Chauncey Billups 0.8440
83. Dave DeBusschere* 0.8358
84. Harry Gallatin* 0.8091
85. Pau Gasol 0.8086

HOF probability ranking has wade with nearly a perfect 1.0000 HOF score

[dubeta]

lebron = 0 titles without top 26 all time player dwyane wade


kobe = 2 titles without a top 80 all time sidekick

Kobe 0 1st round wins without top 4 all time Shaq, and top 20 peak Pau Gasol

[kennethgriffin]

Pau was ROBBED in 2010

paus game is entirely based off kobe double teams in the screen and roll



2010 playoffs:

kobe = 29/6/6
Pau = 19/11/3

2010 finals:

kobe = 29/8/4
pau = 18/11/3




all gasol ever did was set a screen. kobe runs off it. if paus defender switched kobe would hit gasol for the open jumper or roll to the basket


even paus assists were based off kobes initial double. pau got the ball and another guys defender switches to him. so pau hits the open cutter for the layup

this is why the #1 scorer AND #1 playmaker combined is basically inarguably the best player and leader


i dont give a rats a** if pau had more rebounds as a 7 footer or shot a more efficient percentage getting easier opportunities


the guy who made the team go was kobe. period










pau looks thrilled just to be a part of kobes accomplishment... have a nice day

[Cocaine80s]

lebron = 0 titles without top 26 all time player dwyane wade


kobe = 2 titles without a top 80 all time sidekick

Gasol>Wade dont kid yourself

[Young X]

'11 and '12 he was a superstar.

[Hey Yo]

HOF probability ranking has wade with nearly a perfect 1.0000 HOF score

Link please

thanks

[kennethgriffin]

Kobe 0 1st round wins without top 4 all time Shaq, and top 20 peak Pau Gasol

pau doesnt count as a "what have you done without him" guy


because pau is the 6th worst 2nd option in championship history


you lose

[kennethgriffin]

Link please

thanks

http://www.basketball-reference.com/.../hof_prob.html

[kennethgriffin]

Gasol>Wade dont kid yourself

not even remotely close

try again though

[dubeta]

Gasol >> Wade


Odom >>> Bosh


Bynum + Artest >>>> rest of the Heat


Phil Jackson >>> Spoelstra


Yet Kobe still only made 3 finals compared to LeBrons 4 in 4 years



And he wasn't even the best player on the team

[GrapeApe]

Wade was a superstar from 2005 through the 2013 regular season. This has been beaten to death and I don't feel like doing this crap over and over, but you don't amass 24/6/5/2/1 averages over 12 years and a 25+ career PER with only a few superstar seasons.