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Very good NBA starter
Re: In 1975 back when players voted for MVP...a guy named Mike Bantom....
Originally Posted by K Xerxes
Following the 'best player' quota... MVPs since '90, IMO:
90: Jordan
91: Jordan
92: Jordan
93: Jordan
94: Hakeem
95: Hakeem
96: Jordan
97: Jordan
98: Jordan/Shaq
99: Shaq
00: Shaq
01: Shaq
02: Shaq
03: Duncan
04: Garnett
05: Duncan
06: Kobe
07: Kobe/Duncan
08: Kobe
09: LeBron
10: LeBron
11: LeBron
12: LeBron
13: LeBron
I'm going to have to agree with you except I'm only giving Kobe 2006 and maybe 2007... definitely not 2008.
Solid list though. Real solid. Nice job.
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Re: In 1975 back when players voted for MVP...a guy named Mike Bantom....
Originally Posted by Orlando Magic
0 decisions that make me go wtf?
Shaquille O'Neal has 1 MVP award. Just since the year 2000... I go WTF over the following years... 2001, 2002, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2011.
by 0 wtf decisions i mean decisions with absolutely no justification.
You can justify that Iverson deserved it in 2001 and duncan the 2 years after.
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Dunking on everybody in the park
Re: In 1975 back when players voted for MVP...a guy named Mike Bantom....
Maybe send 2 representatives from each franchise to a meeting/conference at the end of the regular season. Either Gm's, Assistant GM's, Coaches/Assistants, scouts and even statisticians. Make it so that their is at least 60-70 voters as a whole.
They all sit around for a day or two and discuss/vote on every award. All NBA teams, dpoy, mip, mvp etc.
I'm not sure what incentive the league would put in place to make coaches and GM's actually care about attending these meetings but you'd have to make it worth their while.
Edit: I could see conflicts of interests occuring somehow though. Say, one GM says "you give player X your fist place vote and ill slide you a 2nd round draft pick at the deadline". I dunno, something like that.
Last edited by Suckafree; 05-28-2013 at 08:12 PM.
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Greatest
Re: In 1975 back when players voted for MVP...a guy named Mike Bantom....
Originally Posted by Orlando Magic
I'm going to have to agree with you except I'm only giving Kobe 2006 and maybe 2007... definitely not 2008.
Solid list though. Real solid. Nice job.
Thanks. Who would you give '08 to? Chris Paul? LeBron?
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NBA Legend
Re: In 1975 back when players voted for MVP...a guy named Mike Bantom....
Originally Posted by K Xerxes
Thanks. Who would you give '08 to? Chris Paul? LeBron?
08 its a toss up between KOBE or Paul. There is no way Lebrons win it.
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Very good NBA starter
Re: In 1975 back when players voted for MVP...a guy named Mike Bantom....
Originally Posted by K Xerxes
Thanks. Who would you give '08 to? Chris Paul? LeBron?
Either or but probably LeBron.
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Titles are overrated
Re: In 1975 back when players voted for MVP...a guy named Mike Bantom....
I was trying to figure out where else id heard of this guy and I stumbled over an old ISH article.
Apparently Mike Bantom is now one of the most powerful people in basketball just from behind the scenes. Hes the VP in charge of the refs and the same for player development after he got a promotion from running international marketing.
Hes gonna go from stealing the least deserved MVP votes ever to the first black commissioner in like 15 years.
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... on a leash
Re: In 1975 back when players voted for MVP...a guy named Mike Bantom....
Originally Posted by TheMarkMadsen
So you're saying Lebron failed to win a title in 09 & 10 when he had the best team? And Kobe won 2 FMVPS without having the best team in the league?
Never thought of it like that
Its a regular season award, so obviously it rewards the statistically best regular season team....
gosh you guys... its like explaining simple logic to 10 year olds
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You are amazing
Re: In 1975 back when players voted for MVP...a guy named Mike Bantom....
MVP is worthless, get over it.
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Good college starter
Re: In 1975 back when players voted for MVP...a guy named Mike Bantom....
[COLOR=Teal]25% stats
25% team record
25% coaches/GM voting
10% players voting
10% media voting
5% NBA.Com poll
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Re: In 1975 back when players voted for MVP...a guy named Mike Bantom....
the players value is often evaluated by how great his team is because it's hard to argue that someone is a valuable player on a below .500 team. it can work both ways as well, it's hard to say which player is valuable if your team is stacked with talent, but at the same time however, an mvp is evaluated on what they bring to the table for their team. when derrick rose won it in 2011, he was top 10 in ppg and assists across the entire league and as a result they won 66 games.
it's a regular season award, yet people love factoring in the playoffs and other things that dont matter.
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7-time NBA All-Star
Re: In 1975 back when players voted for MVP...a guy named Mike Bantom....
Originally Posted by sbw19
[COLOR=Teal]25% stats
25% team record
25% coaches/GM voting
10% players voting
10% media voting
5% NBA.Com poll
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Fan vote should NEVER even be close to a part of the MVP vote. It'd just be a contest between all the Kobe fans and LeBron fans in the world to see who could get the most of their fanbase to vote, and that player would get 5%. Those are, by far, the two most popular NBA players in the world, so if they were on the ballot they would win. And, let's say it was a year like this year where Kobe wouldn't have made the ballot because he wasn't worthy, then LeBron would automatically win that 5% of the vote...every time.
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NBA rookie of the year
Re: In 1975 back when players voted for MVP...a guy named Mike Bantom....
Originally Posted by KG215
Fan vote should NEVER even be close to a part of the MVP vote. It'd just be a contest between all the Kobe fans and LeBron fans in the world to see who could get the most of their fanbase to vote, and that player would get 5%. Those are, by far, the two most popular NBA players in the world, so if they were on the ballot they would win. And, let's say it was a year like this year where Kobe wouldn't have made the ballot because he wasn't worthy, then LeBron would automatically win that 5% of the vote...every time.
It's 5% not 51%. Moron.
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7-time NBA All-Star
Re: In 1975 back when players voted for MVP...a guy named Mike Bantom....
Originally Posted by I<3NBA
It's 5% not 51%. Moron.
Right, and 5% of the total vote wouldn't be significant some years.
And I'm the moron.
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Re: In 1975 back when players voted for MVP...a guy named Mike Bantom....
I would just set some guidelines, and make them public. These are not examples of guidelines I would choose, but something like: Player must be from a playoff team. Prefer someone from a top 3-5 team, but a great story in the 6-10 range would suffice. Must average at least 20ppg. etc etc. Just legit, open, guidelines.
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