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    Default Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen: RED WARRIORS



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chOsRrvpnGc

    this video shows why Jordan and Pippen were the most optimal 1-2 punch of all time: best defensive 1-2 punch and best offensive 1-2 punch ever...

    when watching the video, it becomes IMMEDIATELY evident how much better the level of play was and how individually unique the skills were back then, as needed to mitigate a no-spacing environment (with less open shots that anyone can do, more individually-unique skills were needed), and also how much quicker and instinctive the game played... it's like night and day from today's marching-band-like, choreographed-looking spacing, and the resulting slower pace, predictable movements and commodotized play-finishing.

    shaq and kobe stans will want to make a case for best 1-2 punch, but the chemistry between kobe and shaq was tenuous and unsustainable.

    also, Jordan and Pippen were BOTH first-team all-defense for all 6 championship years... Shaq's never even made a first-team all-defense, ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chOsRrvpnGc

    this video shows why Jordan and Pippen were the most optimal 1-2 punch of all time: best defensive 1-2 punch and best offensive 1-2 punch ever...

    when watching the video, it becomes IMMEDIATELY evident how much better the level of play and skills were back then, as needed to mitigate a no-spacing environment, and also how much quicker and instinctive the game played... it's like night and day from today's marching-band-like, choreographed-looking spacing, and the resulting slower pace and predictable movements.

    shaq and kobe stans will want to make a case for best 1-2 punch, but the chemistry between kobe and shaq was tenuous and unsustainable.

    also, Jordan and Pippen were BOTH first-team all-defense for all 6 championship years... Shaq's never even made a first-team all-defense, ever.
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    Thats not really true

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    Default Re: Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen: RED WARRIORS

    Quote Originally Posted by Kvnzhangyay
    Thats not really true
    but you agree with the rest, so i'm fine with the anomaly of you being mistaken about that one thing.

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    Default Re: Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen: RED WARRIORS

    OP why do you care about players who are retired

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    Default Re: Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen: RED WARRIORS

    Quote Originally Posted by rlsmooth775
    OP why do you care about players who are retired
    idk about you, but i prefer to watch the best brand of basketball out there, and that isn't this era..

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    Default Re: Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen: RED WARRIORS

    Quote Originally Posted by rlsmooth775
    OP why do you care about players who are retired
    Because those were the greatest years of basketball period point blank.

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    Default Re: Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen: RED WARRIORS

    Quote Originally Posted by Straight_Ballin
    Because those were the greatest years of basketball period point blank.
    it's this, but more specifically, previous eras played a superior brand of basketball.

    the brand of basketball played in previous eras forced guys to play faster, more instinctively, and use a higher skill level as required to mitigate a no-spacing environment.

    this is far superior to today's marching-band-like, choreographed-looking spacing, and the resulting slower pace and predictable movements.

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    Default Re: Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen: RED WARRIORS

    Old highlight video but still exciting to watch. Best Duo in NBA history.

    Another one of my favorite HL video of them

    The Dobermans (Jordan & Pippen Highlight Mix)

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    Default Re: Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen: RED WARRIORS

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    but you agree with the rest, so i'm fine with the anomaly of you being mistaken about that one thing.
    How can you prove I'm mistaken?

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    Default Re: Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen: RED WARRIORS

    No duo will ever come close to '01 Shaq-Kobe.

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    Default Re: Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen: RED WARRIORS

    I thought from the title, this would be about MJ and Scottie going down on women during their periods

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    Default Re: Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen: RED WARRIORS

    GOAT duo.
    Shaq was a monster in offense but always had holes in his defense (PnR) and FT. Kobe was great in D but always a chucker, bad shot selection guy.

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    Default Re: Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen: RED WARRIORS

    Op it's not good to live that far in the past it's over man

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    Default Re: Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen: RED WARRIORS

    Quote Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
    No duo will ever come close to '01 Shaq-Kobe.
    Don't make an ass out of yourself. MJ and Pippen were miles ahead of Kobe and Shaq. The results speak for themselves.
    To say that no one will "come close" to a sub 60 win team is a joke.

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    Default Re: Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen: RED WARRIORS

    Quote Originally Posted by MJistheGOAT
    GOAT duo.
    Shaq was a monster in offense but always had holes in his defense (PnR) and FT. Kobe was great in D but always a chucker, bad shot selection guy.
    Which is why Duncan took them out in 99 and 03, and why the Pistons (who lacked any major superstar of the same caliber as the Laker's main guys) handed them their butts on a platter.

    MJ and Pippen were probably the greatest duo of all time with Magic and Kareem running them extremely close.
    Shaq and Kobe were not in the same league as either of those 1-2 punches.

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