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College superstar
Re: Hall of Famer? Part 2: Tracy McGrady
Originally Posted by Jimmy2k8
All Time leading scorer in college basketball history, along with easily matching McGrady's NBA accomplishments.
It's the basketball HOF, not the NBA HOF.
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College superstar
Re: Hall of Famer? Part 2: Tracy McGrady
Originally Posted by Rnbizzle
Give me one player, who has dominated the game on the level Tracy McGrady has, who is not currently in the hall of fame.. Don't worry, I'll wait.
Dominated? Please explain.
How? With the ball in his hands as the offense stagnated? For one season?
And lets not base it all on PER or some other inane stat designed for those who don't understand the game by watching it. Lets pretend you can actually determine a "dominant" player by seeing one.
Don't worry. I'll wait.
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Re: Hall of Famer? Part 2: Tracy McGrady
Did you watch those games? Are we going to pretend he didn't win a whole bunch of those games for his teams? If I seriously have to explain to you, how T-Mac dominated the league in those years, I'm not gonna get into this with you any further, sorry..
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College superstar
Re: Hall of Famer? Part 2: Tracy McGrady
Originally Posted by Rnbizzle
Did you watch those games? Are we going to pretend he didn't win a whole bunch of those games for his teams? If I seriously have to explain to you, how T-Mac dominated the league in those years, I'm not gonna get into this with you any further, sorry..
One dimensional player who never made a teammate better and couldn't win anything outside the regular season.
To me, that's not a HOFer.
Guess we'll agree to disagree.
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Bulls
Re: Hall of Famer? Part 2: Tracy McGrady
20.8 ppg 5.8 rpg 4.6 apg regular season career.
29 ppg 7 rpg 6 apg playoffs career.
25-32 ppg 6-8 rpg and 5-6 apg in prime. (7-8 years)
7 time all star
2 scoring champion.
7 all team (2 first)
Belongs to hall of fame.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Hall of Famer? Part 2: Tracy McGrady
You keep asking these questions when it's so easy to get into the basketball hof that what is the point? Guys like Vince Carter and Tracy Mcgrady deserving or not will probably make it and it doesn't really mean anything. It's not exactly difficult to get into the basketball hof. Besides the locks that get in first year, there is always guys that probably shouldn't be in there that eventually make it on way later nominations or their 6th or 7th or whatever nomination.
Last edited by Smoke117; 11-25-2011 at 02:44 PM.
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Bulls
Re: Hall of Famer? Part 2: Tracy McGrady
Originally Posted by Smoke117
You keep asking these questions when it's so easy to get into the basketball hof that what is the point? Guys like Vince Carter and Tracy Mcgrady deserving or not will probably make it and it doesn't really anything. It's not exactly difficult to get into the basketball hof.
Carter & McGrady were superstars of 00's.It's still difficult for other borderline allstars.
Duncan,Kobe,Garnett,Iverson,Nash,Carter,McGrady,Al len,Pierce... not so much for a decade.
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The Magic are a trash
Re: Hall of Famer? Part 2: Tracy McGrady
another one that could go either way, i don't think he'd make it
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I Insist
Re: Hall of Famer? Part 2: Tracy McGrady
Nope. His peak was too short, and he lacks playoff success.
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Re: Hall of Famer? Part 2: Tracy McGrady
This is much easier to me (surprisingly little) than Vince.
T-Mac was much more dominant in his prime/peak. Yes, his playoff success will always be his Achilles heel, but let's look at his playoff numbers and elimination games closely:
2001- Team goes 43-39, didn't have HCA, were the underdogs, Grant Hill injured for the majority of the season, 2nd best player was Darrel Armstrong for the rest of the season. Got eliminated by the #1 ranked offensive team in the Milwaukee Bucks (who had Ray Allen, Glenn Robinson, and Sam Cassell) that made the ECF and were 1 game away from playing in the Finals.
T-Mac P/O: 33.8ppg 6.5rpg 8.3apg 1.8spg 1.3bpg 2t/o 41.5%fg 20%3pt 81.6%ft
Elimination games:
Game 3
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NBA Superstar
Re: Hall of Famer? Part 2: Tracy McGrady
He had hall of fame talent. But unfortunately, it didn't translate due to injuries and bad luck.
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Re: Hall of Famer? Part 2: Tracy McGrady
Originally Posted by 97 bulls
He had hall of fame talent. But unfortunately, it didn't translate due to injuries and bad luck.
+1.
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Bulls
Re: Hall of Famer? Part 2: Tracy McGrady
Originally Posted by JohnnySic
Nope. His peak was too short, and he lacks playoff success.
7-8 years isn't that short.
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I argue against Kobe
Re: Hall of Famer? Part 2: Tracy McGrady
Are you joking?
Easily a HOF and there can be no debate.
He was the best overall SG from 00-05.
In that time frame he had 3-5 seasons of 32/6/6 in the playoffs on 55%+ TS before the sissy hand-check rules were put in place..
Just because his Career was relatively short due to injury's and he never had good talent on his team in those years doesn't mean he wasn't an absolutely amazing and GOAT level talent player.
Those 4-5/6 Years are more then good enough to get him into the Hall.
I have no doubt TMac + Shaq could have won just an easily as him and Kobe in the early 00's.
Not hating on Kobe just trying to make a point that TMac was arguably the best guard in the early 00's and the main reason he didn't have playoff success was due to him having poor teams not because he himself was poor as a player.
Also was the lead MVP vote getter at the Guard Position from 00-05.
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Bulls
Re: Hall of Famer? Part 2: Tracy McGrady
Originally Posted by 32Dayz
He was the best overall SG from 00-05.
You mean all around, right?
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