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5/7=71%>>3/9=33%
Re: "Dare you to shoot it" Defense.....
Originally Posted by 9erempiree
Reggie Evans, another player like this.
I see those games where they dare him to shoot when he's out on top of the circle.
He would still shoot them.
Basically If a team defended Kobe like Spurs defended Bron in game 7, Kobe would score 50pts thru 3 quarters easily, but teams aren't stupid enough to do that to Kobe. This also does not mean Kobe is a current better player than Bron, he isn't. But offensively, you fear Kobe far more than Bron and Pop showed that.
Spurs defended LeBron like they they defended Blake Griffin, and Marc Gasol with the ball in their hands at the top of the key. That speaks factual volumes.
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NBA All-star
Re: "Dare you to shoot it" Defense.....
Originally Posted by branslowski
Basically If a team defended Kobe like Spurs defended Bron in game 7, Kobe would score 50pts thru 3 quarters easily, but teams aren't stupid enough to do that to Kobe. This also does not mean Kobe is a current better player than Bron, he isn't. But offensively, you fear Kobe far more than Bron and Pop showed that.
Spurs defended LeBron like they they defended Blake Griffin, and Marc Gasol with the ball in their hands at the top of the key. That speaks factual volumes.
Eh, Pop defended Lebron like that because he would have a field day going to the rim if they didn't.
Nobody fears Kobe more than Lebron offensively. Lebron is more efficient and deadly with the pass, he'll always cause danger one way or the other. Kobe is an offensive player who has never even shot above 50%.
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Local High School Star
Re: "Dare you to shoot it" Defense.....
Rose might be such a player. I know his jump shot was getting better but it was still less dangerous than his speed to the basket.
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WHITESIDE
Re: "Dare you to shoot it" Defense.....
Who you rather
A) play up on him and allow him to drive pass you and attack the rack
B) double team him and allow for him to find open shooters
C) sag off of him and allow him to take low percentage long/midrange 2pt shots
I think it's pretty obvious what's the best choice
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Re: "Dare you to shoot it" Defense.....
How you guard a guy is ALL about their relative abilities. Those who pretend that driving has nothing to do with it are living in a fantasy world.
Players you would play a step off are those who are better going the basket either because they are poor at shooting (Rondo, Ronnie Brewer) and/or because they are dangerous on the drive (Isiah Thomas).
Players you play tight are those you fear the shot more than the drive (Matt Bonner, Steve Novak).
LeBron is an elite driver and an improving, now quite good, shooter. You'd still prefer him to be shooting to barrelling down the lane and that will be reflected in how teams defend him.
Given the LeBron v Kobe comps lets work this out
the most important thing is combing usage and efficiency. This is reflected by usage and ts%. How teams guard players is factored in, insofars as teams will try to take away a players best option.
Kobe career usage: 31.8% career TS%: .555
very strong numbers for a wing
James career usage: 31.7%, career TS% .575
Historically elite elite numbers for a wing.
Take out their historically "should have been college" years if you like. Kobe's numbers go up a bit (mostly usage), LeBrons go up a quite a lot.
Basically even when LeBron was a below average shooter teams couldn't stop him getting good shots, they do even less so now.
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Canned
Re: "Dare you to shoot it" Defense.....
Pop fears Lebron driving to the hoop and causing foul trouble, collasping defense, open 3pt shooters MUCH more than he does a fadeaway shot from Kobe. Kobe stans spewing garbage again
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Re: "Dare you to shoot it" Defense.....
Originally Posted by leMVP
1st, nope, but that's a 50-50 strategy, you hope he's off and misses, or you get burnt for doing that. latter happens more often than not. and in most important games he always find his jumper, game 6 against boston, game 7 against spurs, the whole series against pacers.
2nd, lebron's progress on his jumper has been very impressive, raising his FG% and 3pt% year after year, so in couple of years it's going to be virtually impossible to stop him or use any tactics like that. MJ-like.
3rd, to get to your main point of making this thread, Kobe is going to shoot jumpers till his arms fall off, and shoot his team out of games like he usually do, so if i where a coach and seeing player like kobe going to shoot until he dies, i'll be happy and let him shoot, other than fluke games where he's hot, he's going to shoot his team out of contest.
in a couple of years he'll be in his 30s with fading athleticism.
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Re: "Dare you to shoot it" Defense.....
Originally Posted by TonyMontana
Kobe Bryant
-6/24
-41% shooting in cafeer elimination games
-39% in Game 7s
Yeah I'd dare him to shoot it
what a clutch closer, all time clutchest player ever. clutchbe
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Re: "Dare you to shoot it" Defense.....
Originally Posted by TheReal Kendall
Holy shit look at the # of games MJ played in... imagine if dude didn't go to College.
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Lol
Re: "Dare you to shoot it" Defense.....
LeBron is not usually played like the way the Spurs played him. In the games I've watched him the past two years (and I've watched a lot of Heat games) he is generally guarded more closely on his jumpshots.
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Lebron fan
Re: "Dare you to shoot it" Defense.....
Originally Posted by TheReal Kendall
all this tell me that MJ is better than Lebron. By age 28, MJ played 8 seasons, Lebron played 10 seasons.
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High School Varsity 6th Man
Re: "Dare you to shoot it" Defense.....
Tyreke Evans and Dwyane Wade. I never understood why players always fall for Wade's shot fakes.
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College superstar
Re: "Dare you to shoot it" Defense.....
Originally Posted by WolfGang
Tyreke Evans and Dwyane Wade. I never understood why players always fall for Wade's shot fakes.
are you kidding me? Wade has one of the best fakes in the history of basketball. He is not as tall as kobe or Jordan which gives defenders even more confidence that they might be able to block it and he takes full advantage of that fact.
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Great college starter
Re: "Dare you to shoot it" Defense.....
It's pretty simple. A jumper is a lower percentage shot than a layup or dunk, regardless of how good the shooter is. You have to pick your poison with great offensive players. In most cases you'd rather them shoot jumpers (long 2's ideally) than allow penetration leading to easy scores, free throws, and foul trouble. Even young Kobe was often given room from the perimeter. This strategy has been used against nearly every star perimeter player at some point in their career.
Last edited by GrapeApe; 07-26-2013 at 07:35 PM.
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I report you
Re: "Dare you to shoot it" Defense.....
Originally Posted by 9erempiree
Besides Lebron is there any other player in history, or currently will fall under this category?
Here are the current players that I would play this kind of defense on:
Rondo
Westbrook
This guy?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orks2RIt5mg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNJiUsBY2Cs
Last edited by dannywpt; 07-26-2013 at 07:43 PM.
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