2006 Kobe better than 2nd 3 peat Jordan?

[kennethgriffen]

blowing a 3-1 to a Suns team missing Amare and Joe Johnson

how were they missing joe johnson when they traded him for boris diaw


a guy that annihilated lebron in the finals


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxT10XO2Zfg

[Kblaze8855]

The 06 Suns were good. And Kobe did all one could expect taking it to 7 games. No problem with that...

Its just seems we have lost any way of describing a team that is good with anyone but loaded or stacked. People calling the Lakers stacked now....you were saying the Nuggets....it seems teams have two options....

Ass....or loaded.

We take everything to such extremes.

The 06 suns were a good team. Very good. Its true the standards have changed over the years but they were already changing then. It wasnt back to 01 when the Lakers having 2 superstars made them untouchable.

06? Quite a few teams had a #2 who could hang with the likes of Marion and then some solid role players behind them.

It was a legit good team. Kobe should not have won that series.

But they werent just stacked. Its kinda like the 15 and 16 Warriors. More a great team than a stacked lineup. Cant account for chemistry.

[Kblaze8855]

how were they missing joe johnson when they traded him for boris diaw


a guy that annihilated lebron in the finals


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxT10XO2Zfg

We calling sign and trades real trades now?

Joe just signed with atlanta. Diaw and 2 picks were compensation to let him get a bigger deal....much like how Moses malone was "traded" to the 76ers or Lebron was "traded" to the Heat.

Its a free agent signing with a deal worked out to help each team.

[kennethgriffen]

The 06 Suns were good. And Kobe did all one could expect taking it to 7 games. No problem with that...

Its just seems we have lost any way of describing a team that is good with anyone but loaded or stacked. People calling the Lakers stacked now....you were saying the Nuggets....it seems teams have two options....

Ass....or loaded.

We take everything to such extremes.

The 06 suns were a good team. Very good. Its true the standards have changed over the years but they were already changing then. It wasnt back to 01 when the Lakers having 2 superstars made them untouchable.

06? Quite a few teams had a #2 who could hang with the likes of Marion and then some solid role players behind them.

It was a legit good team. Kobe should not have won that series.

But they werent just stacked. Its kinda like the 15 and 16 Warriors. More a great team than a stacked lineup. Cant account for chemistry.

marion averaged 20ppg, 12rpg, 2spg, 1bpg on 49%fg's in the 2006 playoffs


he was their 3rd guy before amare went down


i dunno too many teams that had a 2nd guy like that let alone a 3rd guy

[kennethgriffen]

We calling sign and trades real trades now?

Joe just signed with atlanta. Diaw and 2 picks were compensation to let him get a bigger deal....much like how Moses malone was "traded" to the 76ers or Lebron was "traded" to the Heat.

Its a free agent signing with a deal worked out to help each team.

that could be one of the best deals any team ever got for a sign and trade


diaw is one of the smartest players ever



i bet you didn't know this but diaw averaged 19ppg, 7rpg, 5apg, 1spg, 1bpg on 53%fg's in the 2006 playoffs over 20 games



did i say they were stacked?

[3ball]

I'm gonna be honest, 2nd three-peat MJ was more dominant than Kobe, but Kobe had a way of elevating teammates that rivaled and sometimes exceeded Jordan's

I remember cheering against Kobe during that time, and it annoyed the hell out of me that he was in so many games with dogshit teammates - seriously, this guy gave Brian cook a career.. this guy, and medvedenko, and kwame, and smush, and so many stiffs to name - they all actually played pretty good and hit big shots all the time - I give Kobe and his sheer desire a lot of the credit for elevating these guys.. these guys did fear him - they feared not living up to his standard and played their ass off for him

[kennethgriffen]

I'm gonna be honest, 2nd three-peat MJ was more dominant than Kobe, but Kobe had a way of elevating teammates that rivaled and sometimes exceeded Jordan's

I remember cheering against Kobe during that time, and it annoyed the hell out of me that he was in so many games with dogshit teammates - seriously, this guy gave Brian cook a career.. this guy, and medvedenko, and kwame, and smush, and so many stiffs to name - they all actually played pretty good and hit big shots all the time - I give Kobe and his sheer desire a lot of the credit for elevating these guys.. these guys did fear him - they feared not living up to his standard and played their ass off for him

common man. you give a little you get a little


if i'm gonna be respectful and say jordans the goat then the least you could do is say peak kobe was better than 33-35 year old mj



the guy was on his last legs gassing out a ton and had a bit of luck to get those last 3 rings

rodmans was arguable finals mvp in 96

kerrs title winner in 97

running on fumes and getting some phantom fouls at the end of game 6 in 98 ... then the brutal achilles chop no call game winner


over that 3 year stretch jordan had 3 games of 50+ points and topped out at 51


kobe had 10 games of 50+ in one season for **** sakes

55 in a half during the 81 vs toronto... 62 in 3 quarters vs dallas

4 straight 50's with 2 60 point games sandwiched in there

are you seriously gonna ****ing try and sit there and tell people you think that old busted up MJ was better??

he was still dominant yes.. still mvp caliber yes. on the level of kobe at his best? F*CK NO


only absolute peak MJ and absolute peak wilt come close to kobe individually


do you seriously want me as an enemy?


smarten up

[3ball]

common man. you give a little you get a little


if i'm gonna be respectful and say jordans the goat then the least you could do is say peak kobe was better than 33-35 year old mj



the guy was on his last legs gassing out a ton and had a bit of luck to get those last 3 rings

rodmans was arguable finals mvp in 96

kerrs title winner in 97

running on fumes and getting some phantom fouls at the end of game 6 in 98 ... then the brutal achilles chop no call game winner


over that 3 year stretch jordan had 3 games of 50+ points and topped out at 51


kobe had 10 games of 50+ in one season for **** sakes

55 in a half during the 81 vs toronto... 62 in 3 quarters vs dallas

4 straight 50's with 2 60 point games sandwiched in there

are you seriously gonna ****ing try and sit there and tell people you think that old busted up MJ was better??

he was still dominant yes.. still mvp caliber yes. on the level of kobe at his best? F*CK NO


only absolute peak MJ and absolute peak wilt come close to kobe individually


do you seriously want me as an enemy?


smarten up

Knowing how jordan played (like Kobe), the stats tell the story

And they don't come remotely close to supporting a case for Kobe

He had a 19.9 PER in the 2006 playoffs

Should I go on?

[kennethgriffen]

98 mj got his ass torn apart by a 19 year old kobe in both regular season games for christ sake


imagine him trying to defend 2006 kobe


daaaaaa f*ck

[Manny98]

98 mj got his ass torn apart by a 19 year old kobe in both regular season games for christ sake


imagine him trying to defend 2006 kobe


daaaaaa f*ck

And Kobe got torn apart by Steve Nash in the playoffs even lost the MVP to him

[Uncle Drew]

i'd rank them

#1 2006 Kobe
#2 2007 Kobe
#3 1990 Jordan
#4 1989 Jordan
#5 2003 Kobe
#6 1991 Jordan
#7 2009 Kobe
#8 1992 Jordan
#9 1993 Jordan
#10 2008 Kobe
#11 2001 Kobe
#12 2002 Kobe
#13 1996 Jordan
#14 1997 Jordan
#15 2010 Kobe
#16 1998 Jordan
#17 1988 Jordan
#18 1987 Jordan
#19 2013 Kobe
#20 2012 Kobe
#21 2004 Kobe
#22 2011 Kobe
#23 2000 Kobe
#24 1985 Jordan
#25 1999 Kobe



the rest were old/benched/fraction of the season or injured versions of them and not worth mentioning

Hahahahaha.

[3ball]

98 mj got his ass torn apart by a 19 year old kobe in both regular season games for christ sake


imagine him trying to defend 2006 kobe


daaaaaa f*ck

No he didn't - Kobe played well in Chicago that year, but 98' MJ still exceeded him that game, and then destroyed him in the all-star game in front of a bigger TV audience

he scored on Kobe 5 times mono-a-mono and stuffed Kobe's attempt at an iverson crossover

[Uncle Drew]

No he didn't - Kobe played well in Chicago that year, but 98' MJ still exceeded him that game, and then destroyed him in the all-star game in front of a bigger TV audience

he scored on Kobe 5 times mono-a-mono and stuffed Kobe's attempt at an iverson crossover

You mean mano a mano, lmao. Mono a mono would translate to monkey against monkey. That 3ball racism.

[3ball]

You mean mano a mano, lmao. Mono a mono would translate to monkey against monkey. That 3ball racism.

No more colloquialisms

[ShawkFactory]

You mean mano a mano, lmao. Mono a mono would translate to monkey against monkey. That 3ball racism.

You mean mano y mano