Is Michael Jordan the worst owner in NBA History?

[DJ Leon Smith]

When did being a rookie preclude you from being able to make a jump shot? And I didn't call him a bust. I said he's glorified role player, not a player that you build around with the #2 pick.

Plenty of rookies couldn't hit jumpshots and went on to become good to great outside shooters.

Go check Scottie Pippen's rookie stats and get back to me.

[Xiao Yao You]

Plenty of rookies couldn't hit jumpshots and went on to become good to great outside shooters.

Go check Scottie Pippen's rookie stats and get back to me.

He became passable. Weakest part of his game.

[DJ Leon Smith]

He became passable. Weakest part of his game.

You're wrong, but now explain the improvement in Gary Payton's outside shot to his prime.

Go on.

[caliman]

Plenty of rookies couldn't hit jumpshots and went on to become good to great outside shooters.

Go check Scottie Pippen's rookie stats and get back to me.

I think it's fair to say that Pippen was inconsistent with his jump shot for at least the first few seasons. But he showed enough to know that with work he would become better at it. MKG isn't even at an inconsistent level. He's downright terrible. I mean seriously, go look at his shot chart. According to his shooting splits he was 78/287 on jump shots. No way can a wing player in todays NBA make it shooting like that.

[DJ Leon Smith]

I think it's fair to say that Pippen was inconsistent with his jump shot for at least the first few seasons. But he showed enough to know that with work he would become better at it. MKG isn't even at an inconsistent level. He's downright terrible. I mean seriously, go look at his shot chart. According to his shooting splits he was 78/287 on jump shots. No way can a wing player in todays NBA make it shooting like that.

Scottie Pippen's rookie season percentages:

FG 46% FT 57% 3PT 17%

MKG's rookie season percentages:

FG 45% FT 74% 3PT 22%

You were saying?

You're right though, MKG can't improve and his shooting will be downright terrible for the rest of his career and he can't make it in today's NBA.

[caliman]

Scottie Pippen's rookie season percentages:

FG 46% FT 57% 3PT 17%

MKG's rookie season percentages:

FG 45% FT 74% 3PT 22%

You were saying?

You're right though, MKG can't improve and his shooting will be downright terrible for the rest of his career and he can't make it in today's NBA.

We were specifically talking about jump shots. MKG was 78/287, a robust 27%. So once again, my point was that he was terrible shooting from 3 feet and out. He isn't even good enough to be called an inconsistent shooter. He's f*ckin terrible. If you can find Pippens jump shooting stats for his first few seasons we would be glad to look at them.

[Xiao Yao You]

I think it's fair to say that Pippen was inconsistent with his jump shot for at least the first few seasons. .

Always was streaky at best.

[Eat Like A Bosh]

Well you can't be the best at everything.

[Lebron23]

If Jerry Krause had listented to Jordan, he would've drafted Joe Wolf over Pippen, and there would have never been a Bulls dynasty.

That's actually true. Krause was just a better talent evaluator than MJ.

[1987_Lakers]

How the **** is MKG a future bust? Please explain OP? The stupidity of ISH never ceases to amaze me.

lol. 7 years later. Career 8.5 ppg, not bad for a 2nd overall pick.

[RRR3]

Scottie Pippen's rookie season percentages:

FG 46% FT 57% 3PT 17%

MKG's rookie season percentages:

FG 45% FT 74% 3PT 22%

You were saying?

You're right though, MKG can't improve and his shooting will be downright terrible for the rest of his career and he can't make it in today's NBA.

I mean...

[Axe]

He should have never reverted the name of the team back to the hornets.

[Soundwave]

Who cares. Wayne Gretzky was a mediocre coach/executive for the Phoenix Coyotes. Magic was an awful coach. Larry Bird hasn't done much in Indiana in ages. Isiah Thomas and the Knicks was a train wreck. Kevin McHale not so great in Minnesota. Lakers would never give Kareem a shot in a serious coaching or management role.

A guy like Jerry West is rare.

Players don't often make the best coaches/managers because their play style is based largely on instinctual ability, it doesn't translate to coaching/management.

A large chunk of the NBA is mediocre every year anyway, there's no other sports league where like 70% of the teams really have 0 legitimate chance of winning anything big, so the Hornets are just in the same category as many other teams.

There's 6-8 actual "good teams" and then everyone else is a non playoff team or 1st round canon fodder.

[light]

Charlotte has only been to the playoffs once since he's been there. He did some boneheaded things in Washington too.

- Drafted Kwame Brown with the #1 pick
- Traded Rip Hamilton for Stackhouse (Washington)
- Drafted Adam Morrison with the #3 pick
- Drafted Brandan Wright instead of Jokim Noah
- Drafted D.J. Augustin instead of Brook Lopez
- Drafted Gerald Henderson instead of Ty Lawson
- Drafted soon to be bust Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
- Traded Tyson Chandler for nothing
- Traded away Tobias Harris

There's more to owning a club than just drafting and trading players. In fact, that's not even the owner's responsibility, typically.

To me, for an owner, more important than player movement may be 1) willingness to spend and 2) quality of facilities and surrounding services (catering, etc). I'm not familiar with the Charlotte Hornets training facilities or services and whether they're world class or not, but that is a big part of being a quality owner. I'm also not sure about Jordan's reputation as a spender.

If he ranks low on those two counts I would probably consider him to be of a lower tier of owner.

[Soundwave]

It's also easy to say Kwame Brown and Adam Morrison suck in hindsight, but at the time everyone and their grandma had Kwame Brown ranked no.1 in that draft, he was supposed to be a KG type player. If the Wizards didn't take him the no.2 team would've sprinted up to the podium to select him.

Everyone had Adam Morrison ranked around 3/4 in that draft as well, he was a phenomenonmal scorer his last year in college, no.1 in the NCAA.