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    Default Re: Obama about to announce a major policy shift on Cuba

    Quote Originally Posted by senelcoolidge
    You know Cuba and other leftist governments in Latin America are laughing at the United States. Obama is a joke, seriously. What a piece of sh#t. This might actually give more life to the communist government of Cuba that was dying a very very very very slow death.
    Give that AM radio a rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MavsSuperFan
    Great job by obama.

    The only people against this are people that hate obama no matter what, Old cuban exiles and people who want to pander to the cuban vote (florida is important as a swing state and cubans are concentrated there)

    Old cubans are just being irrational/emotional.
    Old cubans are very salty. I've spoken to a couple in person, they harbor bad feelings towards the US because of the trade sanctions that were imposed left their people starving. One fella i spoke to recently, mentioned how cooking oil was especially scarce among other food items, but the USSR came to save the day by sending ships full of these supplies.

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    This only helps the Communist Cuban Government, not the people. Anyone who thinks this will actually help Cubans is an idiot.

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    Default Re: Obama about to announce a major policy shift on Cuba

    I am not against this but I wonder if some people here would have reacted the same way if the government lifted the embargo against a right wing dictatorship.

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    Default Re: Obama about to announce a major policy shift on Cuba

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Chewing
    This only helps the Communist Cuban Government, not the people. Anyone who thinks this will actually help Cubans is an idiot.
    How so?

    Rock and Roll and blue jeans were among the things that undermined the Soviet Union. You don't think American cousins returning home with iphones and DVDs are going to have an effect?

    The embargo was in place for 50 years can you say it worked? Can you say it didn't hurt the people?

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    Default Re: Obama about to announce a major policy shift on Cuba

    This is going to benefit Castro and that government, not the people. So it's a FAIL. Unless Obama plans to invade and finally topple that government. But he's not, he's a leftist.

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    Default Re: Obama about to announce a major policy shift on Cuba

    Quote Originally Posted by senelcoolidge
    So it's a FAIL.
    How would describe the previous 50 years of policy?

    Quote Originally Posted by senelcoolidge
    Unless Obama plans to invade and finally topple that government. But he's not, he's a leftist.
    The last president that planned to invade Cuba was Eisenhower. The plans were executed under Kennedy. It didn't topple the government.

    Neither did anything Johnson did or Nixon did or Ford did or Carter did or Reagan did or H.W. Bush did or Clinton did or W. Bush did or Obama did.

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    Default Re: Obama about to announce a major policy shift on Cuba

    Even among Cuban-Americans it's only the older ones that support this policy.


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    Default Re: Obama about to announce a major policy shift on Cuba

    Thats like saying we were in before the next change in leadership.
    How well will that play off, is all just a matter of how americans are indirectly percieved.

    It all sounds too cliche

    But even a long standing castro government wouldnt hurt us, because we are recognizing them

    As for disagreeing with their actions. their international policy, whether open or closed will not be simply decided by the united states.




    To ally with one, while they are strong yet with no intention of its wealth and resource. Is the best way to keep the phone line open.

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    http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/worl...PQI/story.html


    [QUOTE]Cuba has completed the release of 53 political prisoners that was part of last month

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    Default Re: Obama about to announce a major policy shift on Cuba

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinNYC
    How so?

    Rock and Roll and blue jeans were among the things that undermined the Soviet Union. You don't think American cousins returning home with iphones and DVDs are going to have an effect?

    The embargo was in place for 50 years can you say it worked? Can you say it didn't hurt the people?

    My grandfather served in the Army under Fulgencio Batista. After the Revolution, those that were still loyal or did not agree with the Revolution were either imprisoned or executed. My grandfather saw first hand that Cuba was replacing one tyrant for another. So he moved his family to Chicago in 1959.

    The embargo was put in place to hurt the Castro regime, not its people. It's the people of Cuba and the failures of the American Government to follow through with ousting Castro that has kept Cuba the way it is. Before the embargo, Castro took from the people. After the embargo, so long as a Castro or any Socialist dictator is in power, they will continue taking from the people. If you honestly expect any real change, I'm afraid you will see very little of it.

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    [QUOTE]
    US & Cuba hold highest-level meeting in over 50 years

    President Obama is nearing a decision on removing Cuba

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    Obama stays winning



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    The US removed Cuba from the State Department's list of state sponsors of terrorism, the White House announced.

    President Obama submitted a statement to Congress that read, "I hereby certify, with respect to the rescission of the determination of March 1, 1982, regarding Cuba that: (i) the Government of Cuba has not provided any support for international terrorism during the preceding 6-month period; and (ii) the Government of Cuba has provided assurances that it will not support acts of international terrorism in the future."

    Cuba was 1 of 4 countries on the US list of nations accused of repeatedly supporting global terrorism. Iran, Syria & Sudan are still on the list.

    good to see. Cuban people are suffering & deserve better.
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    Default Re: Obama about to announce a major policy shift on Cuba

    Quote Originally Posted by BRabbiT
    good to see. Cuban people are suffering & deserve better.
    And that has what to do with this?

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