[Prime] Duncan vs [Prime] Kobe

[kurple]

lakers fans opinion should not count.. for obvious reasons

[Flagrant 2]

It's close, but the correct answer is Kobe.

[Scholar]

Definitely KB24.

[kennethgriffin]

Duncan

1999 top 5
2000 top 3
2001 top 3
2002 best player
2003 top 2
2004 top 3
2005 best player
2006 top 5
2007 top 5
2008 top 10
2009 top 20
2010 top 50
2011 top 60
2012 arguably worst starter in the nba

Kobe

1999 top 10
2000 top 5
2001 top 2
2002 top 2
2003 best player
2004 top 3
2005 top 5 ( injured )
2006 best player
2007 best player
2008 best player
2009 best player
2010 best player
2011 top 5 ( injured )
2012 arguably the best player


this is why kobes higher all time.... forget about having more rings lol

[Rocker09]

I'm lakers fan and a kobe fan and IMO, Kobe is above Duncan in the GOAT list. Having said this, If I were to choose a cornerstone for my franchise, I'd pick Duncan because a good big man is more valuable than an equally good guard.

[hitmanyr2k]

Depends on the era and the rules. Pre-2005 I would take Duncan no doubt. Post-2005 I would take Kobe mainly because of the rules Stern implemented to make it easier for swingmen to dominate. Pre-2005 it was truly a big man's game but I believe to thsi day Stern and his crew saw the writing on the wall and he recognized the center position getting weaker (especially with the decline of Shaq and Duncan's decline not being too far off) so he handcuffed defenders and opened the game up to make the wing guys look better.

And besides that Pre-2005 Duncan was the better player. A Kobe-led Laker team (without Shaq) is barely sniffing the playoffs, never mind the Finals. Kobe was nothing more than a gunner back then (still is)...not really leader material.

[gin17]

Duncan

1999 top 5
2000 top 3
2001 top 3
2002 best player
2003 top 2
2004 top 3
2005 best player
2006 top 5
2007 top 5
2008 top 10
2009 top 20
2010 top 50
2011 top 60
2012 arguably worst starter in the nba

Kobe

1999 top 10
2000 top 5
2001 top 2
2002 top 2
2003 best player
2004 top 3
2005 top 5 ( injured )
2006 best player
2007 best player
2008 best player
2009 best player
2010 best player
2011 top 5 ( injured )
2012 arguably the best player


this is why kobes higher all time.... forget about having more rings lol

One of the most ridiculous things I've heard.

[kurple]

One of the most ridiculous things I've heard.

yeah, that proved to everyone that his oponion cant be taken seriously

[Odinn]

One of the most ridiculous things I've heard.

He said Kobe > Duncan in 2003. What else you expect from him?

[hkfosho]

the kobe fanboyism in this thread is immensely strong.

[kennethgriffin]

One of the most ridiculous things I've heard.

duncan is a 7 footer shooting 40% fg's

averaging 10ppg and 5 rebounds?

pathetic

hes on derek fishers skill level with that crap

He said Kobe > Duncan in 2003. What else you expect from him?

kobe had a better year... the spurs were a better team and duncan had the better finish

but are you gonna tell me that the year kobe averaged 30/5/5 and averaged 40ppg for TWO entire months and set the all time three point record in a half and a game DIDNT have a better year?

[kurple]

duncan is a 7 footer shooting 40% fg's

averaging 10ppg and 5 rebounds?

pathetic

hes on derek fishers skill level with that crap

he had 17/11/5/3/2 tonight

not the best timing to post this

[kennethgriffin]

he had 17/11/5/3/2 tonight

not the best timing to post this

good

i dont hate duncan anymore.. he stopped being a threat a long time ago... i dont wanna see him retire yet. my lakers play their best against the spurs in the playoffs

[Odinn]

Q was Prime vs. Prime... Duncan's prime was 1999-07 and Kobe's prime was 2001-10.



Also Kobe never had a playoff run like Duncan's 2003 run. Peak Duncan > Peak Kobe. Prime Duncan > Prime Kobe.


I added EFG% and corrected Duncan's H2H #s.

[hitmanyr2k]

Duncan

1999 top 5
2000 top 3
2001 top 3
2002 best player
2003 top 2
2004 top 3
2005 best player
2006 top 5
2007 top 5
2008 top 10
2009 top 20
2010 top 50
2011 top 60
2012 arguably worst starter in the nba

Kobe

1999 top 10
2000 top 5
2001 top 2
2002 top 2
2003 best player

2003? Yeah right. Kobe put up a bunch of empty numbers and couldn't lead a team for shit. All he cared about was his stats. Even jacked 17-47 against the Celtics that had his team shaking their heads saying WTF. With Kobe at the helm the Lakers were 5-10 before Shaq came back to right the ship. Kobe wasn't a leader. He was a shotjacker. And then Duncan absolutely murdered the Lakers that year and sent them home in tears on his way to a championship.

2003 - best player and leader Tim Duncan

2005 top 5 ( injured )
2006 best player
2007 best player
2008 best player
2009 best player
2010 best player
2011 top 5 ( injured )
2012 arguably the best player

The rest is arguable but 2005 Stern's stupid rule changes came into play and made it a lot tougher on Duncan and big men but made it much easier for Kobe and the rest of the guards in the league.