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Re: Video PROOF Bron is overrated as f*ck
Originally Posted by Im Still Ballin
Delly-Lebron screen and roll on the wing ball going middle, ball defender gets caught on good screen, roll man defender hangs back to contain Delly drive, Lebron rolls, defense collapses in from the weakside, leaving an open Richard Jefferson in the weakside corner, who Delly passes too for an open 3 which he makes. This is a perfect example of how this action can get open shots without Lebron touching the ball..
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XXL
Re: Video PROOF Bron is overrated as f*ck
Originally Posted by Im Still Ballin
This one might be my favorite of the night. Lebron gestures to screen ball man going middle, man defender preemptively ices to push Delly sideline away from the middle, the roll defender hovers over preemptively to cover Delly's penetration, Lebron reads the proactive defense, counters by rolling for the alley oop, Delly drives as defense intends, Lebron looks clear for an easy oop thanks to reading the PnR defense coverage, thus a weakside defender on the wing sags in a help defense fashion, leaving a wide open Channing Frye who Delly threads a bullet pass to, who drains the set shot... This equates to a high efficiency shot, scrambling defense, and offensive rebounders in the vicinity. Great multi-action play
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Re: Video PROOF Bron is overrated as f*ck
Originally Posted by Im Still Ballin
- Great Delly-LeBron High PnR founded upon a great solid ball screen by LeBron , which got Delly's man defender caught, forcing Carroll to contain Delly's penetration, leading to an easy oop for a rolling LeBron... Threat of shooters on each side of the court... Deadly play; the Middle PnR with spread shooters
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Re: Video PROOF Bron is overrated as f*ck
LeBron myths BUSTED
[COLOR="Blue"]1. He can't play off-ball[/COLOR]
ANSWER: WRONG
In the Playoffs
LeBron cutting: 23/29 FG
1.55 PPP
LeBron as the roll man: 14/23 FG
1.41 PPP
He's even dominating putbacks
11/17 FG
For comparison Tristan is 8/20
[COLOR="Red"]He's statistically the best cutter and top 5 as a PnR Roll man[/COLOR]
2. He's a bad post player
ANSWER: WRONG
LeBron in the post: 15/24 FG
1.09 PPP
He's top 5 in the playoffs so far
We know he' a dominant post player, and has been for the last 4 years or so... He actually led the NBA in Post PPP in 2013
3. He can't defend the rim like a center
ANSWER: WRONG
He's actually statistically the Cavs best rim protector in the playoffs so far
Opponent FG% vs LeBron at rim: 42.9%
18/42 FG defense
For comparison Love is 66% and Tristan is 53.3% and Frye is 51.2%
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The Fam
Re: Video PROOF Bron is overrated as f*ck
ISB taking OP behind the barn
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XXL
Re: Video PROOF Bron is overrated as f*ck
Lol I've been posting actual facts about LeBron for awhile now and morons come in here with pre conceived notions that have no facts to back up their claims
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soundcloud.com/agua-1
Re: Video PROOF Bron is overrated as f*ck
Im still ballin thinks screen and rolls are playing off ball?
There is much more to that boy.
Moving without the ball also means well.. Moving without it to find creases in the defense to get position and get easier shots, it means avoiding the defense to create separation, it means getting your man off balance with a series of moves to either set up a teammate or yourself.
Moving without the ball is more than a set up play/screen and roll.
Moving without the ball is specially essential when a play breaks down and you need to make something out of nothing.
And as I showed, he does NONE of what I mentioned and NONE of what you attempted to post.
But like I mentioned, I'll be fair and make a few more vids. I can assure you the results will be very similar to this vid.
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XXL
Re: Video PROOF Bron is overrated as f*ck
I get it though... OP wants to prop up MJ and aj wants to prop up Wade
It's okay though guys, you don't have to try and discredit LeBron to be able to appreciate other players
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MH!
Re: Video PROOF Bron is overrated as f*ck
Originally Posted by Im Still Ballin
Lol I've been posting actual facts about LeBron for awhile now and morons come in here with pre conceived notions that have no facts to back up their claims
Do you have his post scoring stats from '12?
Originally Posted by andgar923
But like I mentioned, I'll be fair and make a few more vids. I can assure you the results will be very similar to this vid.
What results do you think this video had? Honest question.
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soundcloud.com/agua-1
Re: Video PROOF Bron is overrated as f*ck
Originally Posted by Im Still Ballin
Lol I've been posting actual facts about LeBron for awhile now and morons come in here with pre conceived notions that have no facts to back up their claims
One of my main points behind this video is to show how stats can be misleading.
I know it can't happen with just one video, but it gives one a glimpse of what some of us have been stating for years.
You can post a million stats, like some of us have been stating stats are useless without CONTEXT and misleading.
But that's all some of you guys know.
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XXL
Re: Video PROOF Bron is overrated as f*ck
Also got these tidbits of facts from the past;
POST-UP POWERS
[COLOR="Blue"]Most efficient post-up players in 2013-14 season, according to Synergy (minimum 125 plays).[/COLOR]
Player Plays Points FG% %FT Pts/play
LeBron James 261 283 55.9 21.8 1.08
Kevin Durant 207 221 47.8 20.8 1.07
Dirk Nowitzki 534 568 50.8 15.5 1.06
Dwyane Wade 145 153 53.7 17.2 1.06
Carmelo Anthony 420 427 49.4 16.7 1.02
Al Jefferson 840 813 51.0 11.0 0.97
Arron Afflalo 173 167 49.6 14.5 0.97
Blake Griffin 541 517 47.8 22.7 0.96
Joe Johnson 244 233 50.8 12.3 0.96
Brandon Bass 241 229 44.8 17.0 0.95
[COLOR="Blue"]Most efficient spot-up players, 2012-13 regular season(Min. 100 plays)[/COLOR]
Player Plays Points PPP
Jose Calderon 187 281 1.50
LeBron James 143 195 1.36
Kyle Korver 224 301 1.34
Steve Nash 114 153 1.32
Stephen Curry 226 294 1.30
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Yellow King
Re: Video PROOF Bron is overrated as f*ck
Lebron is actually underrated
And btw my boy ISB is winning right now
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Re: Video PROOF Bron is overrated as f*ck
Originally Posted by andgar923
One of my main points behind this video is to show how stats can be misleading.
I know it can't happen with just one video, but it gives one a glimpse of what some of us have been stating for years.
You can post a million stats, like some of us have been stating stats are useless without CONTEXT and misleading.
But that's all some of you guys know.
That's not context that's your own biased subjective opinion based upon anecdotal evidence
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WIND DEFENDER
Re: Video PROOF Bron is overrated as f*ck
As a big big Jordan (and Wade fan) and I also love Magic and Bird, I still have to say that Bron is not overrated by anyone but his stans on this site. Top 3-5 all time. It is what it is. I also like OP as a poster, but I think this break down is a bridge too far.
Also, Bron is so much better than Kobe they should Almod
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Verticle?
Re: Video PROOF Bron is overrated as f*ck
lol at what OP considers wide open lanes.
3 or 4 guys hedging and being right on the edge of the key isn't "wide open" lol...
And lol at expecting cuts and movement off the ball, when you don't take into account the whole point of the Cavs offense against the Warriors. Multiple screens to get mismatches, which at that point was then to go one on one most of the time with their man.
Get a clue.
Terrible video by a terrible poster. Cracks me up you actually spent a whole lot of time on this.
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