Legendary Kobe-Duncan rivalry drawing to a close

[IllegalD]

Always raped them? Kobe vs. Tim postseason only happened 1x.

3 Finals as first option, 2 rings

45 & 10 on the road (2001):

(*45 is an opponent playoff high vs the Spurs)

https://youtu.be/qawbo3NOmR4

Dr Buss:

Jim Grey, “I just spoke to Dr. Jerry Buss who owns the Lakers and he has owned the ball club for an awful long time now. And he just told me that he can’t recall any Laker, maybe with the exception of Magic Johnson, over the course of the last month playing at the level that Kobe Bryant is playing at. He says it’s just stupefying to him and astonishing that this guy has done so well. And maybe other than Magic he can’t recall another Laker, including all of the great Lakers (Worthy, Jabbar, Cooper, Nixon) playing the way Kobe Bryant is playing.”

Shaq:

“I told Kobe today he was my idol. I’m serious. He’s playing phenomenal. I don’t know what else to say. I think he’s the best player in the league...by far.”

Bill Simmons:

Kobe stole home court in Game 1 with a 45-point barrage (including 28 in the second half). As the president of the Tim Duncan Is the Best Player of His Generation Club, I can tell you these Game 1 highlights do NOT help my case. You couldn’t have made the price of Kobe’s rookie card high enough in May 2001.

"Mr Clutch" vs Spurs (2002):

https://youtu.be/Q8HgzXLQCTM

Game-Winner (2002):

https://youtu.be/VWPWvJ2wr44

Gregg Popovich:

"He has the uncommon will to win," Popovich said. "It's the exact same will to win as Michael Jordan."

The "Colorado" Game (2004):

https://youtu.be/V0PmB22MFKw

Shaq:

"I don't see how he does it," O'Neal said. "He's a fabulous player, probably the best player that ever played the game, especially with all the stuff he's been going through. And it was a fabulous night for him, a memorable night."

Marv Albert:

"This is one of the great playoff performances of all time that we are witnessing by Kobe Bryant."

Doug Collins:

"He's incredible tonight. You sit back and watch a performance like this. He's made every kind of shot that there is."

Comeback + Game-Winner (2008):

https://youtu.be/ICpiCZxB_0Y

39 + 4th Quarter Takeover (2008):

https://youtu.be/5aXVxcLm2qQ

[HOoopCityJones]

What I love about this debate is how the Duncan/Spurs fans really only started talking all that shit once The Spurs faced The Heat in the Finals and choked. But Duncan didn't have any part in that, just the win the very next year that he didn't win FMVP for. It's a joke.

[kennethgriffin]

the rivalry was 4-2


kobe coming out ontop

the rings are 5 vs 4.5

kobe coming out ontop

its pretty damn simple.


kobe would never be the 2nd banana to tony parker at age 30

[IllegalD]

What I love about this debate is how the Duncan/Spurs fans really only started talking all that shit once The Spurs faced The Heat in the Finals and choked. But Duncan didn't have any part in that, just the win the very next year that he didn't win FMVP for. It's a joke.

Exactly.

So much sh*t talking about how Kobe's first rings were really Shaq's, yet Duncan hasn't been the Finals MVP of his championship teams in a decade!

[Hey Yo]

Comeback + Game-Winner (2008):

https://youtu.be/ICpiCZxB_0Y

39 + 4th Quarter Takeover (2008):

https://youtu.be/5aXVxcLm2qQ

The above was the only thing that needed to be posted.

That was the only time they faced each other in the postseason with Kobe being first option / Kobe's team.

[HOoopCityJones]

Kobe's destroyed the quote on quote best Team of this generation his entire career and has just as many championships playing a more selfish brand of Basketball.

Haters mad as fucc right now.

[dubeta]

Exactly.

So much sh*t talking about how Kobe's first rings were really Shaq's, yet Duncan hasn't been the Finals MVP of his championship teams in a decade!

Neither Kobe or Duncan were really championship 1st option material

[HOoopCityJones]

Neither Kobe or Duncan were really championship 1st option material

Someone's alittle upset their boyfriend doesn't belong in this conversation.

[$LakerGold]

I just found out that they will be playing 4 times this season. I don't ever want it to end.

[dubeta]

Someone's alittle upset their boyfriend doesn't belong in this conversation.

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LeBron 2/2 100%

Duncan 3/5 60%





Kobe 2/5 40%

[bballnoob1192]

Or the spurs were focused on shaq and let kobe beat them.

and he did. lol what your point. Im pretty sure his career avg against the spurs in the playoffs is somewhere around 35-5-5. that's rapage

[Kawhi]

the rivalry was 4-2


kobe coming out ontop

the rings are 5 vs 4.5

kobe coming out ontop

its pretty damn simple.


kobe would never be the 2nd banana to tony parker at age 30

Funny you should say that, 2nd banana - which apparently means you only get rewarded half a ring. Let's take a look at the facts:

Parker in the 07 finals: 25 points, 5 rebounds, 3 assists per game
Duncan in the 07 finals: 18 points, 12 rebounds, 4 assists, 1 steal, 2 blocks per game.

One who has an objective look at these stats, would argue that Duncan had more impact on the series, thus should have been rewarded with the MVP award. But since I'm not too desperate, we'll give him the 0.5 rings.

Now let's take a look at Kobe

Kobe in the 00 finals: 16 points, 5 rebounds, 4 assists, 1 steal, 1 block per game
Shaq in the 00 finals: 38 points, 17 rebounds, 2 assists, 3 blocks per game

Going by your logic, Kobe should be rewarded only half a ring. Therefore, it's Kobe 4.5 and Duncan 4.5. Unfortunately, were not finished.

Kobe in the 01 finals: 24 points, 8 rebounds, 6 assists per game
Shaq in the 01 finals: 33 points, 16 rebounds, 5 assists, 3 blocks per game

Another clear 2nd banana ring. If we go by the same agenda, this is another 0.5 rings for Kobe. Meaning it's 4.5 for Duncan, and only 4 for Kobe. What? There's more?

Kobe in the 02 finals: 26 points, 6 rebounds, 5 assists, 2 steals per game
Shaq in the 02 finals: 36 points, 12 rebounds, 4 assists, 3 blocks per game

2nd banana. Duncan 4.5, Kobe 3.5. I could go on, and argue for being a 2nd banana to Pau, but I won't let you go through that.

Thanks for playing.

P.S: KoMe is the worst player in the league right now.

[Smoke117]

Or the spurs were focused on shaq and let kobe beat them.

Pretty much.

[HOoopCityJones]

and he did. lol what your point. Im pretty sure his career avg against the spurs in the playoffs is somewhere around 35-5-5. that's rapage

Still holds the highest average of pts in their building if I'm not mistaken.

[sportjames23]

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LeBron 2/6 33%

Duncan 3/5 60%





Kobe 2/5 40%

I know math isn't your subject, so I made the correction for you.