Pistons: Jordan Rules were "Fake"

[Calabis]

Jordan Rules

I'd like to see Jordan play in todays era.

Shit u should be hoping to see Beasley play in this era, not just take up space on a roster.

[juju151111]

[QUOTE=Calabis]In an interview with Sports Illustrated, Daly described the Jordan Rules as:

[Harion]

there's so much win in this thread oh, how i love it no kobe stans can break in and troll this thread

[Calabis]

vs Knicks

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[juju151111]

there's so much win in this thread oh, how i love it no kobe stans can break in and troll this thread

It's hard to troll facts and video evidence.

[juju151111]

vs Knicks

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You should go through my favorites list on YouTube. Name is juju100000. You will find some rare things. I use to check new MJ vids almost everyday back in 08/09 http://www.youtube.com/my_favorites?feature=mhum start from the bottom through.

[Calabis]

You should go through my favorites list on YouTube. Name is juju100000. You will find some rare things. I use to check new MJ vids almost everyday back in 08/09 http://www.youtube.com/my_favorites?feature=mhum start from the bottom through.

Will do thanks

[eliteballer]

LMAO @ these clowns thinking that clips of the Pistons playing any kind of defense on Jordan proves there were rules, when the Pistons themselves say otherwise.


As if its either there were Jordan rules or the Pistons wouldnt have played defense on Jordan

Mahorn says the idea was to get the media to write articles, then some clown says the fact they wrote articles proves it was real

This clown juju expecting anyone to take him seriously when he can't type or spell properly

[Calabis]

LMAO @ these clowns thinking that clips of the Pistons playing any kind of defense on Jordan proves there were rules, when the Pistons themselves say otherwise.


As if its either there were Jordan rules or the Pistons wouldnt have played defense on Jordan

Mahorn says the idea was to get the media to write articles, then some clown says the fact they wrote articles proves it was real

This clown juju expecting anyone to take him seriously when he can't type or spell properly

Reading 101:

In an interview with Sports Illustrated, Daly described the Jordan Rules as:

[nightprowler10]

You're wasting your time bro.

[az00m]

LMAO @ these clowns thinking that clips of the Pistons playing any kind of defense on Jordan proves there were rules, when the Pistons themselves say otherwise.


As if its either there were Jordan rules or the Pistons wouldnt have played defense on Jordan

Mahorn says the idea was to get the media to write articles, then some clown says the fact they wrote articles proves it was real

This clown juju expecting anyone to take him seriously when he can't type or spell properly

the coach said otherwise.

[catch24]

It's as if OP enjoys sticking his foot in his mouth.

[Calabis]

Freaking Kobestans are morons

But after the 59-point effort, Detroit coach Chuck Daly had seen enough. "We made up our minds right then and there that Michael Jordan was not going to beat us by himself again," says Daly. "We had to commit to a total team concept to get it done."

So Daly and his assistants at the time, Ron Rothstein and Dick Versace, created a defensive game plan just for Jordan. Each Piston had specific responsibilities: Jordan has the ball on the wing, you go there, you do this; Jordan is posted up on the right box, you check him there, you watch for this, and so on. Collectively these responsibilities became known as the Jordan Rules.

The guiding principle is that a defender is never left to guard Jordan unaided. Jordan's position on the floor dictates whether the Pistons trap him with a second defender or have the second defender play "help and recover" (that is, run at Jordan to stop his dribble, but then scramble back to his own man; Salley is a master at this ploy). The closer Jordan is to the basket, the more the Pistons go with the trap. When he is above the sideline hash mark (28 feet from the baseline), they usually play help and recover.

Even when Jordan is far from the basket, perhaps bringing up the ball as a point guard on a wide-open floor, Detroit runs a second player at him, someone like Salley or Rodman. This reduces the amount of open court that he has to work with and often forces him to give up the ball to a teammate. The Pistons always want someone else to handle the ball. Not sometimes. Always.

When Jordan has the ball on the wing, the Detroit player guarding him forces him toward defensive help. Most often that means turning Jordan to the right when he's on the left side of the floor and to the left when he's on the right side.

If Jordan happens to get isolated with one man and is in a potential scoring position, the Piston defender will try to force him to go left. They think he makes a stronger, more explosive move to his right. So does Jordan.

When Jordan tries to run a pick-and-roll, Detroit traps him. That means that two men, the one guarding Jordan and the one guarding the Bull setting the pick, run at him. The Pistons do this with remarkable efficiency, partly because that second defender is usually the 6 ft. 11 in. Salley or the 6 ft. 11 in. Laimbeer. The tall trappers make it almost impossible for Jordan to deliver the ball to a teammate rolling toward the basket, and their aggressive charge toward Jordan usually forces him to retreat.

When Jordan posts up near the basket, Detroit typically puts three men on him, with Dumars most often behind him, using his strong hips and legs to "body" Jordan away from the basket. When the entry pass comes in from the point guard, Thomas leaves that guard and double-teams Jordan. If that means the point guard is free, so be it. Meanwhile, another defender, perhaps Laimbeer or Salley, will have come over and planted himself in the lane, maybe on the baseline side, maybe toward the middle. Dumars will then turn Jordan toward that help. Jordan loves the baseline. "Even though there's less room down there, I can be more creative," he says. But by and large, the Pistons take it away from him.

When Jordan comes off a screen set near the baseline -- his most frequent maneuver when he's playing shooting guard -- a host of Jordan Rules come into play. Dumars must follow him around the screen -- no matter if he has to go into the bleachers -- to prevent Jordan from making a backdoor cut and receiving an alley-oop pass for an almost certain dunk. The Piston -- usually Laimbeer -- guarding the Bull setting the pick will step out to make Jordan receive the ball farther from the basket. In addition -- and this is important -- that man will guard against Jordan's making a "tight curl" off the top of the screen and suddenly looping back into the middle to take a short pass on the dead run, a circumstance that is almost always disastrous for the defense.

Here is a link morons

Inventor(Jordan Rules) Rothstein on todays pathetic rules: Even Rothstein, now a Heat assistant coach, is conflicted. Like many who were on Chuck Daly's Pistons staffs in the late '80s, he is consumed with the science of NBA defense. He sees little reason for any player to shoot 20 or 25 free throws in a game. But he appreciates that offense sells and that it's what commissioner David Stern wants and what fans expect in this video-driven era of individual theatrics.

"I understand the nature of the business and who we are and what we are," Rothstein says. "Do I like it? No. But it doesn't matter if 1 like it. There are still very good defenders in this league who do a very good job, who have adjusted to the rules. It used to be you'd get a forearm on and it gave you certain leverage. So you've got to move your feet better. There's no way you can be as good under the current rules."

There were three tenets to the Detroit defense: Never give Jordan an easy shot; try to confuse him with varied defensive looks; and be very physical with him. The principles were perfect for the Pistons, who were smart and aggressive (some would say they crossed the line into "dirty") defenders.

"The so-called Jordan Rules might've been the only thing I contributed to basketball," Daly says with a smile. "Everything else I stole."

"It was a nice theory," Daly says of the Jordan Rules, "but eventually Scottie Pippen evolved into Scottie Pippen, one of the best players in the game. And once that happened, we couldn't beat them anymore. Michael simply found other guys when we ganged up on him."

"As Michael's supporting cast gets better, this defense is going to be tougher to play," says Dumars. "Jordan is the constant. We know what he can do. It's what everybody else does that matters." So far, that hasn't been enough.

[juju151111]

LMAO @ these clowns thinking that clips of the Pistons playing any kind of defense on Jordan proves there were rules, when the Pistons themselves say otherwise.


As if its either there were Jordan rules or the Pistons wouldnt have played defense on Jordan

Mahorn says the idea was to get the media to write articles, then some clown says the fact they wrote articles proves it was real

This clown juju expecting anyone to take him seriously when he can't type or spell properly

The coach said they were. You know the person who came up with the gameplan for them after MJ did this to them http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7S76yjxSWE and this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdmKXTUF4wE (1987 1988)chuck daly vowed to never let it happen again you dumb****. How about u research your history of BB with a open mind and stop the BS. You clearly have no fuking idea wat it talking about http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/si_...jordan/891106/ plz don't think you know more Bb history then me especially MJ history u Kobe stan.

[juju151111]

Freaking Kobestans are morons

But after the 59-point effort, Detroit coach Chuck Daly had seen enough. "We made up our minds right then and there that Michael Jordan was not going to beat us by himself again," says Daly. "We had to commit to a total team concept to get it done."

So Daly and his assistants at the time, Ron Rothstein and Dick Versace, created a defensive game plan just for Jordan. Each Piston had specific responsibilities: Jordan has the ball on the wing, you go there, you do this; Jordan is posted up on the right box, you check him there, you watch for this, and so on. Collectively these responsibilities became known as the Jordan Rules.

The guiding principle is that a defender is never left to guard Jordan unaided. Jordan's position on the floor dictates whether the Pistons trap him with a second defender or have the second defender play "help and recover" (that is, run at Jordan to stop his dribble, but then scramble back to his own man; Salley is a master at this ploy). The closer Jordan is to the basket, the more the Pistons go with the trap. When he is above the sideline hash mark (28 feet from the baseline), they usually play help and recover.

Even when Jordan is far from the basket, perhaps bringing up the ball as a point guard on a wide-open floor, Detroit runs a second player at him, someone like Salley or Rodman. This reduces the amount of open court that he has to work with and often forces him to give up the ball to a teammate. The Pistons always want someone else to handle the ball. Not sometimes. Always.

When Jordan has the ball on the wing, the Detroit player guarding him forces him toward defensive help. Most often that means turning Jordan to the right when he's on the left side of the floor and to the left when he's on the right side.

If Jordan happens to get isolated with one man and is in a potential scoring position, the Piston defender will try to force him to go left. They think he makes a stronger, more explosive move to his right. So does Jordan.

When Jordan tries to run a pick-and-roll, Detroit traps him. That means that two men, the one guarding Jordan and the one guarding the Bull setting the pick, run at him. The Pistons do this with remarkable efficiency, partly because that second defender is usually the 6 ft. 11 in. Salley or the 6 ft. 11 in. Laimbeer. The tall trappers make it almost impossible for Jordan to deliver the ball to a teammate rolling toward the basket, and their aggressive charge toward Jordan usually forces him to retreat.

When Jordan posts up near the basket, Detroit typically puts three men on him, with Dumars most often behind him, using his strong hips and legs to "body" Jordan away from the basket. When the entry pass comes in from the point guard, Thomas leaves that guard and double-teams Jordan. If that means the point guard is free, so be it. Meanwhile, another defender, perhaps Laimbeer or Salley, will have come over and planted himself in the lane, maybe on the baseline side, maybe toward the middle. Dumars will then turn Jordan toward that help. Jordan loves the baseline. "Even though there's less room down there, I can be more creative," he says. But by and large, the Pistons take it away from him.

When Jordan comes off a screen set near the baseline -- his most frequent maneuver when he's playing shooting guard -- a host of Jordan Rules come into play. Dumars must follow him around the screen -- no matter if he has to go into the bleachers -- to prevent Jordan from making a backdoor cut and receiving an alley-oop pass for an almost certain dunk. The Piston -- usually Laimbeer -- guarding the Bull setting the pick will step out to make Jordan receive the ball farther from the basket. In addition -- and this is important -- that man will guard against Jordan's making a "tight curl" off the top of the screen and suddenly looping back into the middle to take a short pass on the dead run, a circumstance that is almost always disastrous for the defense.

Here is a link morons

Inventor(Jordan Rules) Rothstein on todays pathetic rules: Even Rothstein, now a Heat assistant coach, is conflicted. Like many who were on Chuck Daly's Pistons staffs in the late '80s, he is consumed with the science of NBA defense. He sees little reason for any player to shoot 20 or 25 free throws in a game. But he appreciates that offense sells and that it's what commissioner David Stern wants and what fans expect in this video-driven era of individual theatrics.

There were three tenets to the Detroit defense: Never give Jordan an easy shot; try to confuse him with varied defensive looks; and be very physical with him. The principles were perfect for the Pistons, who were smart and aggressive (some would say they crossed the line into "dirty") defenders.

"The so-called Jordan Rules might've been the only thing I contributed to basketball," Daly says with a smile. "Everything else I stole."

"It was a nice theory," Daly says of the Jordan Rules, "but eventually Scottie Pippen evolved into Scottie Pippen, one of the best players in the game. And once that happened, we couldn't beat them anymore. Michael simply found other guys when we ganged up on him."

"As Michael's supporting cast gets better, this defense is going to be tougher to play," says Dumars. "Jordan is the constant. We know what he can do. It's what everybody else does that matters." So far, that hasn't been enough.

"I understand the nature of the business and who we are and what we are," Rothstein says. "Do I like it? No. But it doesn't matter if 1 like it. There are still very good defenders in this league who do a very good job, who have adjusted to the rules. It used to be you'd get a forearm on and it gave you certain leverage. So you've got to move your feet better. There's no way you can be as good under the current rules."

MJ was averging damn near 40 against them until they starred fouling the shit out of him and making him pass to his young and inexperience/young team. Elite gets owned within two pages of his own thread. When u try to hype up Kobe, try harder you ******ger.