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College star
Re: Best First Step You've Seen
Originally Posted by HurricaneKid
LOL at this thread. If anyone seriously thinks MJ was in the same conversation as AI as far as quickness they weren't around to watch. MJ was 100x the player but he wasn't nearly the blur AI was.
80's Jordan was quick af, killer 1st step, cat-like, crazy to watch... Not going against anyone picking AI (I've mentioned him too) but let's not say that Jordan was not in the same conversation or something, especially considering that Mike was considerably bigger.
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GOAT
Re: Best First Step You've Seen
Originally Posted by HurricaneKid
LOL at this thread. If anyone seriously thinks MJ was in the same conversation as AI as far as quickness they weren't around to watch. MJ was 100x the player but he wasn't nearly the blur AI was.
Educate yourself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qukNKGNphoQ
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Re: Best First Step You've Seen
Iverson was quicker, but I don't think his first step was as fast as Jordan's. If it were, you would have seen him beating defenders just facing up and blowing by them more frequently than he did, like Jordan used to do. Hell, even in 1997, Jordan was voted as having the league's best first step by NBA coaches - and this was well past his explosive prime.
Like SHAQisGOAT said, let's not act like it's crazy to think Jordan had the better first step. Not only was it super quick, it was also long.
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Made that high school varsity squad
Re: Best First Step You've Seen
Chris Jackson aka Abdul-Rauf stop and pop
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NBA sixth man of the year
Re: Best First Step You've Seen
It's hard to truly gauge first steps of little guys. It's so rare to see 'em create off a triple threat to begin with. They are always playing with a live dribble from behind the 3pt line.
Among SGs and SFs, the best first steps I've seen are Dr. J, MJ, David Thompson and Worthy. Then you have 2nd tier guys like Kobe, T-Mac, VC and Drexler.
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Re: Best First Step You've Seen
Wade was freakishly quick too at his peak...his ability to split the Pnr and dunk on the opposing center was crazy don't call him Flash for nothin
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Re: Best First Step You've Seen
Originally Posted by sportjames23
I lived the Jordan years. I'm a grown man with a mortgage and I have more than one framed picture of MJ up at my house.
Quick as AI (who I don't even like)? Not even remotely close.
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College star
Re: Best First Step You've Seen
Originally Posted by HurricaneKid
I lived the Jordan years. I'm a grown man with a mortgage and I have more than one framed picture of MJ up at my house.
Quick as AI (who I don't even like)? Not even remotely close.
The need you have to always say something along those lines just makes it seem more like bullshit, ijs.
The "not even remotely close" there further adds on to that.
First of all, we're discussing players' 1st steps, so I'll just stick to that here... And MJ can DEFINITELY be argued to have the quickest 1st step.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Best First Step You've Seen
Originally Posted by OldSchoolBBall
Iverson was quicker, but I don't think his first step was as fast as Jordan's. If it were, you would have seen him beating defenders just facing up and blowing by them more frequently than he did, like Jordan used to do.
Hell, even in 1997, Jordan was voted as having the league's best first step by NBA coaches - and this was well past his explosive prime.
Like SHAQisGOAT said, let's not act like it's crazy to think Jordan had the better first step. Not only was it super quick, it was also long.
I think this is the kind of thing the coaches were referring to (MJ blow-by on PG Travis Best):
Here's MJ off a live-dribble against the DPOY Rodman:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCNK0Nntvl8&t=0m11s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4ZlHwMstDc&t=2m03s
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Last edited by 3ball; 08-06-2015 at 01:47 PM.
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NBA sixth man of the year
Re: Best First Step You've Seen
Originally Posted by brownmamba00
Wade was freakishly quick too at his peak...his ability to split the Pnr and dunk on the opposing center was crazy don't call him Flash for nothin
Oh yeah. Bar none the quickest SG ever, but his first step wasn't tier 1.
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the kkklaw
Re: Best First Step You've Seen
Wilt Chamberlain, and it isn't even close. His first step off the top of the key, and the next time his feet touches ground is when he smashes it into the rim, breaking some poor souls arm in the process. Speed? Wilt Chamberlain ran a 4.2s 40yd dash while juggling mountain lions, writing poetry, and smoking a fat blunt.
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NBA sixth man of the year
Re: Best First Step You've Seen
Originally Posted by HurricaneKid
LOL at this thread. If anyone seriously thinks MJ was in the same conversation as AI as far as quickness they weren't around to watch. MJ was 100x the player but he wasn't nearly the blur AI was.
There's a difference between first step and overall quickness. This thread is about first step and yes MJ's first step is as good as anyone's...
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Dunking on everybody in the park
Re: Best First Step You've Seen
Originally Posted by OldSchoolBBall
Iverson was quicker, but I don't think his first step was as fast as Jordan's. If it were, you would have seen him beating defenders just facing up and blowing by them more frequently than he did, like Jordan used to do. Hell, even in 1997, Jordan was voted as having the league's best first step by NBA coaches - and this was well past his explosive prime.
Like SHAQisGOAT said, let's not act like it's crazy to think Jordan had the better first step. Not only was it super quick, it was also long.
WHAT???????
AI driving in at will going 1v5 night in and night out. Did u started watching AI when he got traded to Denver?
Jordan's first step was the combination of quickness and strength.
AI first step was all quickness
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with God-given ass
Re: Best First Step You've Seen
Nah, I got young MJ. His inital explosion rivals anyone I seen mentioned in here and his stride is longer than all of these PGs (or PG sized players). Pretty lethal combo.
Hill and Spree deserve mentions. Probably FroBe, too. Stevie Franchise. Hardaway...
Last edited by JimmyMcAdocious; 08-06-2015 at 03:54 PM.
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NBA sixth man of the year
Re: Best First Step You've Seen
Originally Posted by JimmyMcAdocious
Nah, I got young MJ. His inital explosion rivals anyone I seen mentioned in here and his stride is longer than all of these PGs (or PG sized players). Pretty lethal combo.
Hill and Spree deserve mentions. Probably FroBe, too. Stevie Franchise. Hardaway...
Damn, don't know how I missed Steve Francis......
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