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Re: MJ Averages In Game 7 Of NBA Finals.......
Hateraid is gonna meltdown at this thread LOL
He hates the Jordan truths
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Re: MJ Averages In Game 7 Of NBA Finals.......
Originally Posted by Indian guy
Similar talent level, yeah, but not even on the same planet in terms of offensive effectiveness. GS posted a GOAT-level +8.1 offense this season. '93 Suns were +5.0. There's actually a bigger offensive gap between the 2 teams than there is defensively, which is saying something because GS is far superior defensively too. And just a far better team overall.
LOL
these current Warriors are injured, Lebron's offense wasn't anywhere close to as good in the first 4 games of the series when Iggy/Green/Bogut were all healthy, his production only went up when Green was suspended followed by injuries to Iguodala and Bogut
the 93 Suns had prime Barkley and KJ who are comparable to Steph and Klay as players
Barkley averaged 27/13/6 48%FG, Dan Majerie was one of the best 3PT shooters of his time and shot 44% from 3 with 17/39 from that range for the series, Suns had 4 players average 16+ ppg and their team put up 106.7 ppg with a 89.7 pace in the Finals
the Warriors in these Finals are averaging 101.7 ppg with a 92.2 pace, so the Jordan Bulls actually faced a better offense by the numbers
if you compare through 6 games, Thunder Dan was 17/39 from 3 while Klay is 19/50 from 3, Barkley produced a lot more than Curry with him having a significant edge on points, rebounds AND assists, with 9 more assists and 16 less turnovers, even a 33 yr old Danny Ainge was 8/12 from 3
and then factor in that MJ had less help from his teammates
Irving as a 2nd option is averaging 27/4/4 vs Pippen's 21/9/8, Irving is shooting 47/41/93 from the field while Scottie shot 44/0/54
and Tristan Thompson has been producing better than Horace Grant, averaging 11/11 on 61% shooting vs Grant's 11/10 on 53% shooting while playing singificantly less minutes than Horace
and to top it off, Jordan averaged 41/9/6/ on 51/40/69 shooting vs Lebron's 30/11/9 on 51/40/70 shooting and MJ had 10 less turnovers while also playing more minutes
and don't forget the fact that none of those games were huge blowouts, biggest margin of victory in their series was 10 while Cavs and Warriors have won by an average of 20 points
tl;dr
Suns produced more with more points per game with a slower pace
Suns two best players produced more than Warriors' two best player
1993 Finals was actually a close series and the elimination game was decided by 1 point, Bulls had no HCA and won a close game on the road
Jordan played better than Lebron overall against a team that put up a bigger fight
Last edited by ImKobe; 06-19-2016 at 06:57 AM.
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Re: MJ Averages In Game 7 Of NBA Finals.......
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Re: MJ Averages In Game 7 Of NBA Finals.......
Originally Posted by Indian guy
Similar talent level, yeah, but not even on the same planet in terms of offensive effectiveness. GS posted a GOAT-level +8.1 offense this season. '93 Suns were +5.0. There's actually a bigger offensive gap between the 2 teams than there is defensively, which is saying something because GS is far superior defensively too. And just a far better team overall.
I think the Warriors are better. So, um, yeah. Effectiveness and defense is what separates them as I said.
Definitely think that Suns team could hang with them in a series however. Barkley would be a match up nightmare.
I'm just saying it feels almost relative. Warriors have more talent top to bottom on their roster than Cleveland, same way the 93 Suns had more than the Bulls top to bottom. That's why the Suns were considered the favorites in the series as well, along with having home court advantage.
Last edited by SamuraiSWISH; 06-19-2016 at 11:07 AM.
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Re: MJ Averages In Game 7 Of NBA Finals.......
Originally Posted by Bless Mathews
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Niggah was so alpha and goat he never even had to get to game 7.
He never played like shit in any game.
Didn't have to dig his team out of a whole cus he never played like a *****.
Most alpha goat in all of sports.
simple facts GOAT
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Re: MJ Averages In Game 7 Of NBA Finals.......
I think the Warriors are better, but not in this playoffs. Curry being injured has made their offense look contain able.
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Re: MJ Averages In Game 7 Of NBA Finals.......
Lol this Curry injury excuse is utterly hilarious. He has looked totally fine.
The physicality of the playoffs just isn't as conducive to facilitating big games the way the light defense and less whistle swallowing regular season does.
His entire game is craftiness of pull back dribble moves and a flame thrower flick of the wrist set shot. He's not even shooting a true jumper. So even if he was playinf uncomfortable the way EVERYONE is at this point, it wouldn't limit the bread and butter of his game.
Relax with all this bull shit injury excuses.
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Re: MJ Averages In Game 7 Of NBA Finals.......
Originally Posted by Old Man River
simple facts GOAT
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Re: MJ Averages In Game 7 Of NBA Finals.......
Bron stans so mad right now that their loser didn't have the ability of MJ to ensure that no game 7 ever was played.
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Re: MJ Averages In Game 7 Of NBA Finals.......
Originally Posted by ImKobe
he got eliminated by Magic with Shaq, Grant, Penny and that was after coming back from 2 years of retirement without much preparation on a team that lost Horace Grant and had no rim protection, they swept them the next year
Lebron got eliminated by Dwight Howard and Turkeyglue
And that Magic was the same as the previous year... feuding Shaq/Penny, injured Grant, mentally done Anderson.
Lebron lost when his best player was Mo Williams, no shame in that. Jordan wouldn't have done jack shit with that team, we know he went 1-9 for a reason.
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Re: MJ Averages In Game 7 Of NBA Finals.......
Originally Posted by ImKobe
Steve Nash had loaded teams and Kobe's team lost even when he dropped 50 in a Game 6 that they should have won before his teammates gave up a wide open corner 3 to Nash, failed to secure the defensive rebound and then allowed a wide open Tim Thomas 3 that ultimately was proven to be the dagger in the series.
Steve Nash was a better/more impactful player than Dwight Howard ever will be. Nash is a b2b MVP, Howard is a limited offensive player who used to feast on the Cavs despite them being one of the top defensive teams in the league with rim protectors in Ilgauskas and Varejao, and I hear Lebron stans themselves say how Lebron could guard 1 through 5, yet he couldn't guard a 6-9 center with limited offensive skills
I know you're a dumb poster but my god
So the Suns without Amare were loaded. Was then being loaded the reason Kobe choked away a 3-1 lead?
Steve Nash being more impactful than Dwight
Seriously the delusion you Kobetards go through to push your agenda is sickening.
Dwight was the most impactful defender in the league, while Nash was beyond a liability. That alone destroys the gap in offensive differences.
Dwight is so limited on offense he was putting up prime Shaq numbers on less FGA?
Being able to guard 1-5 doesn't mean you can guard the best center in the league dumbass. Kawhi can't stop Steph Curry so I guess that means he can't guard point gaurds
Originally Posted by West-Side
He was never top 3. Kobe, LeBron, Wade were always better. Garnett, Dirk and Paul were also arguably better.
Dwight wasn't top 3 in 2011?
Dirk/KG being better than Dwight in 09
You're such a terrible poster. Go push your Kobe agenda elsewhere.
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Re: MJ Averages In Game 7 Of NBA Finals.......
Originally Posted by bigkingsfan
And that Magic was the same as the previous year... feuding Shaq/Penny, injured Grant, mentally done Anderson.
Lebron lost when his best player was Mo Williams, no shame in that. Jordan wouldn't have done jack shit with that team, we know he went 1-9 for a reason.
LOL @ equating playoff performances to finals performances. You put MJ in ANY finals and not only is he winning, he won't even allow it to go 7 games. THere is ZERO evidence stating otherwise and we have SIX FINALS series to go off of. Not once did MJ even show that when in a finals, that he was even considering letting it go to 7 games. He is worlds better than Lebron ever was.
Morons on this site are so stupid... they'd rather fault MJ for never having been in a situation where he was down 3-1 and come back and win it all than just admit that he was GOAT for going 6/6 as the man with numerous 40+ point finals games without ever allowing a game 7.
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Re: MJ Averages In Game 7 Of NBA Finals.......
Originally Posted by Straight_Ballin
LOL @ equating playoff performances to finals performances. You put MJ in a finals and not only is he winning, he won't even allow it to go 7 games. THere is ZERO evidence stating otherwise and we have SIX FINALS series to go off of. Not once did MJ even show that when in a finals, that he was even considering letting it go to 7 games. He is worlds better than Lebron ever was.
You need to get to the finals first. What kind of dumb logic is this.
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Re: MJ Averages In Game 7 Of NBA Finals.......
Originally Posted by bigkingsfan
You need to get to the finals first. What kind of dumb logic is this.
No shit. Every time he had enough talent to get to the finals, he insured victory and has the 6 FMVP rings to back it up. What the fvck did lebron ever do? Make it to the finals 7 times only to lose 5 times after tonight?
Not impressed.
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Re: MJ Averages In Game 7 Of NBA Finals.......
Originally Posted by Straight_Ballin
No shit. Every time he had enough talent to get to the finals, he insured victory and has the 6 FMVP rings to back it up. What the fvck did lebron ever do? Make it to the finals 7 times only to lose 5 times after tonight?
Not impressed.
So he didn't have enough talent to get past the Bad Boys the previous years, but eventually did with the same talent.
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