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    Default Re: Which Defense is better: 2010 Finals V.S. 1996 Finals

    Quote Originally Posted by DwightHowardMVP
    Detlef Schrempf guarded Jordan for most of the series.


    Kobe would drop 60 on him.

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    Default Re: Which Defense is better: 2010 Finals V.S. 1996 Finals

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsmoke
    the defense in 2010.

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    Default Re: Which Defense is better: 2010 Finals V.S. 1996 Finals

    Quote Originally Posted by knightfall88
    I think theres no question that 2010 is better.

    One thing really like was how Ray Allen would always walk up under Kobe's legs while he is jumpshooting instead of contesting. That was really clever.


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    Default Re: Which Defense is better: 2010 Finals V.S. 1996 Finals

    Quote Originally Posted by ImmortalD24
    Boston's defense is underrated and is considerably better than those Sonics on that side of the floor.


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    Default Re: Which Defense is better: 2010 Finals V.S. 1996 Finals

    Quote Originally Posted by Da_Realist
    You're missing the point. Boston played great D, but that's not the reason Kobe struggled. Kobe struggled because he has a hero complex and he likes taking dumb shots. Orlando forced* Kobe into shooting 43% last year. Does that mean they are a top-5 defense? LOL

    * - allowed Kobe to take dumb shots
    so true. if kobe had played the right way the entire series (like he did in game 6)....the lakers would have torched the celtics. kobe just played right into their hands in every game but game 6.

    hero complex.....damn you nailed it.

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    Default Re: Which Defense is better: 2010 Finals V.S. 1996 Finals

    Quote Originally Posted by Da_Realist
    You're missing the point. Boston played great D, but that's not the reason Kobe struggled. Kobe struggled because he has a hero complex and he likes taking dumb shots. Orlando forced* Kobe into shooting 43% last year. Does that mean they are a top-5 defense? LOL
    * - allowed Kobe to take dumb shots

    it's called basketball IQ.. Kobe lacks it, his fans want to believe something else..

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    Default Re: Which Defense is better: 2010 Finals V.S. 1996 Finals

    Quote Originally Posted by ashbelly

    at highlighting "double-team" when he gets in the paint. Isn't that what's suppose to happen? From Jordan down to Steve Kerr, if anyone gets in the paint, you are supposed to provide help. You could highlight these things with Kobe/Lebron/Wade etc too. No one is petty enough to do that though.

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    Default Re: Which Defense is better: 2010 Finals V.S. 1996 Finals

    Quote Originally Posted by Desperado
    at highlighting "double-team" when he gets in the paint. Isn't that what's suppose to happen? From Jordan down to Steve Kerr, if anyone gets in the paint, you are supposed to provide help. You could highlight these things with Kobe/Lebron/Wade etc too. No one is petty enough to do that though.

    Celtics were doing the same to Kobe. So it's not a big deal i guess.. Can someone remind me why OP made this thread again ?

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    Default Re: Which Defense is better: 2010 Finals V.S. 1996 Finals

    Quote Originally Posted by Da_Realist
    You're missing the point. Boston played great D, but that's not the reason Kobe struggled. Kobe struggled because he has a hero complex and he likes taking dumb shots. Orlando forced* Kobe into shooting 43% last year. Does that mean they are a top-5 defense? LOL

    * - allowed Kobe to take dumb shots

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    Default Re: Which Defense is better: 2010 Finals V.S. 1996 Finals

    Quote Originally Posted by ashbelly
    it's called basketball IQ.. Kobe lacks it, his fans want to believe something else..
    Lol did you just say Kobe lacks basketball Iq?

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    Default Re: Which Defense is better: 2010 Finals V.S. 1996 Finals

    Quote Originally Posted by Yung D-Will
    Lol did you just say Kobe lacks basketball Iq?
    He clearly doesn't know what that term means.

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    Default Re: Which Defense is better: 2010 Finals V.S. 1996 Finals

    Quote Originally Posted by ashbelly
    it's called basketball IQ.. Kobe lacks it, his fans want to believe something else..
    I think that is going a bit too far. What kobe has always struggled with is his competitive nature and desire to be great. its a great strength but its also by far his biggest weakness. kobe sometimes put his own goals and competitiveness ahead of the team......and while i think that is a terrible quality...... i'd rather have kobe out there putting it all on the line...while some other great players like malone/webber/robinson (to name a few) that played like they were afraid to fail at times in big moments.

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    Default Re: Which Defense is better: 2010 Finals V.S. 1996 Finals

    Quote Originally Posted by Yung D-Will
    Lol did you just say Kobe lacks basketball Iq?




    Quote Originally Posted by tpols
    He clearly doesn't know what that term means.


    when you are constantly shooting jumpers when triple teamed, Your basketball IQ is LOW..,

    When you are constantly taking low percentage shots (even if you might make some) Your ball IQ is Low..

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    Default Re: Which Defense is better: 2010 Finals V.S. 1996 Finals

    Quote Originally Posted by ginobli2311
    I think that is going a bit too far. What kobe has always struggled with is his competitive nature and desire to be great. its a great strength but its also by far his biggest weakness. kobe sometimes put his own goals and competitiveness ahead of the team......and while i think that is a terrible quality...... i'd rather have kobe out there putting it all on the line...while some other great players like malone/webber/robinson (to name a few) that played like they were afraid to fail at times in big moments.
    Kobe is second generation of Jordan, he has Jordan's desire to win too, so does the competitiveness, their character seems close too...

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    Default Re: Which Defense is better: 2010 Finals V.S. 1996 Finals

    Quote Originally Posted by ashbelly
    when you are constantly shooting jumpers when triple teamed, Your basketball IQ is LOW..,

    When you are constantly taking low percentage shots (even if you might make some) Your ball IQ is Low..
    If it's in that case, the young Jordan's ball IQ was low too back in the 80's.

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