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    Default Re: 1984-85 Lakers shot an NBA team record 54.5 FG%

    You can also take eFG% too if you want, which adds value to the 3. I think the eFG is better nowadays than the 80s. It's because players now are better 3pt shooters.

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    Default Re: 1984-85 Lakers shot an NBA team record 54.5 FG%

    There were smarter players in the 80's. Teams worked to get the best shots. Guys took shots they know they can make in their sleep and they stuck to that. Not to mention better teamwork and ball movement that led to easier shots.

    In today's game, players try their best to look as impressive as possible -- even if it lowers their shooting percentages. Ever play a guy in HORSE that only shot from the free throw line but would make 90% of those shots? While you're out behind the 3 point line or trying your new lefty reverse finger roll, he's spotting up at the free throw line shooting those boring as shots to victory every time. There were about 5 of those guys on every team back then. They didn't need to get the "highlight of the day" or try some fancy new move they taught themselves over the summer. They came off screens or ran a backdoor play and shot what they felt comfortable shooting every time. That increases a team's fg%.

    That plus teams had more of an inside game back then. Today's game is purely perimeter based.

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    Default Re: 1984-85 Lakers shot an NBA team record 54.5 FG%

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce Bigalow
    eFG% is not higher now then then bwink

    1984-85: .496 eFG%
    2011-12: .485 eFG%

    1989 = .489eFG%
    2008 = .497eFG%

    ANYONE can cherry pick....aren't you talking about ERAS, not single seasons??

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    Default Re: 1984-85 Lakers shot an NBA team record 54.5 FG%

    Quote Originally Posted by bwink23
    NO THEY AREN'T.....
    yes it is

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/stats.html

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    Default Re: 1984-85 Lakers shot an NBA team record 54.5 FG%

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce Bigalow
    eFG% is not higher now then then bwink

    1984-85: .496 eFG%
    1985-86: .493 eFG%
    1986-87: .488 eFG%
    1987-88: .489 eFG%
    1988-89: .489 eFG%
    1989-90: .489 eFG%
    1990-91: .487 eFG%
    1991-92: .487 eFG%

    2011-12: .485 eFG%
    I love how ur charts Efg% is dropping...That exactly what was happening from the 80's_____> 90's when Mj becomes a hero lol.

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    Default Re: 1984-85 Lakers shot an NBA team record 54.5 FG%

    Quote Originally Posted by Da_Realist
    There were smarter players in the 80's. Teams worked to get the best shots. Guys took shots they know they can make in their sleep and they stuck to that. Not to mention better teamwork and ball movement that led to easier shots.

    In today's game, players try their best to look as impressive as possible -- even if it lowers their shooting percentages. Ever play a guy in HORSE that only shot from the free throw line but would make 90% of those shots? While you're out behind the 3 point line or trying your new lefty reverse finger roll, he's spotting up at the free throw line shooting those boring as shots to victory every time. There were about 5 of those guys on every team back then. They didn't need to get the "highlight of the day" or try some fancy new move they taught themselves over the summer. They came off screens or ran a backdoor play and shot what they felt comfortable shooting every time. That increases a team's fg%.

    That plus teams had more of an inside game back then. Today's game is purely perimeter based.
    +1.

    But I shall also piggy back this statement from something I posted another time:

    Quote Originally Posted by Legends66NBA7
    Let's see, of the top 25 greatest passing offensive/efficient teams of all-time, Magic Johnson has been on 9 of them. He has been the main assist leader for 7 of them. 5 of these teams are in the Top 10 alone. 2 of them are in Top 3 and which includes the greatest passing offensive/efficient teams of all-time. Here they are:

    1984-85 Lakers 118.2 pts 31.4ast 54.5%fg (Magic 12.6ast, Cooper 5.2ast) #1 all-time
    1982-83 Lakers 115.0 pts 30.7ast 52.8%fg (Magic 10.5ast, Nixon 7.2ast) #3 all-time
    1983-84 Lakers 115.6 pts 29.9ast 53.2%fg (Magic 13.1ast, Cooper 5.9ast) # 6 all-time
    1985-86 Lakers 117.3 pts 29.7ast 52.2%fg (Magic 12.6ast, Cooper 5.7ast) # 8 all-time
    1986-87 Lakers 117.8 pts 29.6ast 51.6%fg (Magic 12.2ast, Cooper 4.5ast) # 9 all-time
    1979-80 Lakers 115.1 pts 29.4ast 52.9%fg (Nixon 7.8ast, Magic 7.3ast) # 12 all-time
    1980-81 Lakers 111.2 pts 28.8ast 51.2%fg (Nixon 8.8ast, Magic 8.6ast - 37 games) # 17 all-time
    1981-82 Lakers 114.6 pts 28.7ast 51.7%fg (Magic 9.5ast, Nixon 8.0ast) # 20 all-time
    1987-88 Lakers 112.8 pts 28.6ast 50.5%fg (Magic 11.9ast, Cooper 4.7ast, Scott 4.1ast) #23 all-time

    The 84-85 and 82-83 teams are 2 of 5 teams that have had averaged 30+ assists per game for a season. Magic is responsible for 2 of them, both of which went to the Finals (1-1). Not to mention every single one of those teams hit over 50%.
    That basically alludes to the teamwork concept you were talking about. As for the Lakers... Magic just made things happen with those teams.

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    Default Re: 1984-85 Lakers shot an NBA team record 54.5 FG%

    1984-85: .496 eFG%
    1985-86: .493 eFG%
    1986-87: .488 eFG%
    1987-88: .489 eFG%
    1988-89: .489 eFG%
    1989-90: .489 eFG%
    1990-91: .487 eFG%
    1991-92: .487 eFG%
    1992-93: .491 eFG%
    1993-94: .485 eFG%
    1994-95: .500 eFG%
    1995-96: .499 eFG%
    1996-97: .493 eFG%

    2004-05: .482 eFG%
    2005-06: .490 eFG%
    2006-07: .497 eFG%
    2007-08: .497 eFG%
    2008-09: .500 eFG%
    2009-10: .501 eFG%
    2010-11: .498 eFG%
    2011-12: .485 eFG%


    wow I've been lied to
    It's supposed to be easier to score, when in reality it isn't.
    Last edited by Deuce Bigalow; 03-26-2012 at 07:58 PM.

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    Default Re: 1984-85 Lakers shot an NBA team record 54.5 FG%

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce Bigalow

    NO it's not......

    Based on %'s from 3-point and 2-point conversions:

    2008:

    2-points = 48.5%FG
    3-points = 36.2%FG

    1989:

    2-points = 49.0%FG
    3-points = 32.3%FG


    Hence, a HIGHER eFG% in 2008 vs. 1989.


    Sorry to burst your trolling bubble there Baluka.

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    Default Re: 1984-85 Lakers shot an NBA team record 54.5 FG%

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce Bigalow
    1984-85: .496 eFG%
    1985-86: .493 eFG%
    1986-87: .488 eFG%
    1987-88: .489 eFG%
    1988-89: .489 eFG%
    1989-90: .489 eFG%
    1990-91: .487 eFG%
    1991-92: .487 eFG%
    1992-93: .491 eFG%
    1993-94: .485 eFG%
    1994-95: .500 eFG%
    1995-96: .499 eFG%
    1996-97: .493 eFG%

    2004-05: .482 eFG%
    2005-06: .490 eFG%
    2006-07: .497 eFG%
    2007-08: .497 eFG%
    2008-09: .500 eFG%
    2009-10: .501 eFG%
    2010-11: .498 eFG%
    2011-12: .485 eFG%


    wow I've been lied to
    It's supposed to be easier to score

    Of course those numbers allude to TOTAL SCORING, not just scoring on the perimeter where most of the rule changes have taken place.....

    You haven't been lied to, your just ignorant, not your fault your here to learn, maybe.

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    Default Re: 1984-85 Lakers shot an NBA team record 54.5 FG%

    Quote Originally Posted by bwink23
    Of course those numbers allude to TOTAL SCORING, not just scoring on the perimeter where most of the rule changes have taken place.....

    You haven't been lied to, your just ignorant, not your fault your here to learn, maybe.
    No. YOU"RE TOO ignorant

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    Default Re: 1984-85 Lakers shot an NBA team record 54.5 FG%

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce Bigalow
    I thought handchecking made it tougher on offensive players?

    From 1978-79 to 1987-88 the NBA League averaged over .480 FG% every season, as high as .492 FG% in 1983-84. The league now has been under .460 FG% every year since 1996-97.
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    http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...=238968&page=2

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    Default Re: 1984-85 Lakers shot an NBA team record 54.5 FG%

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce Bigalow
    No. YOU"RE TOO i ignorant

    I'm sorry i had to point out the retardedness of your posts....you have no argument, cuz even the numbers don't line up for you

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    Default Re: 1984-85 Lakers shot an NBA team record 54.5 FG%

    Quote Originally Posted by iDefend5
    numbers don't lie

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce Bigalow
    1984-85: .496 eFG%
    1985-86: .493 eFG%
    1986-87: .488 eFG%
    1987-88: .489 eFG%
    1988-89: .489 eFG%
    1989-90: .489 eFG%
    1990-91: .487 eFG%
    1991-92: .487 eFG%
    1992-93: .491 eFG%
    1993-94: .485 eFG%
    1994-95: .500 eFG%
    1995-96: .499 eFG%
    1996-97: .493 eFG%

    2004-05: .482 eFG%
    2005-06: .490 eFG%
    2006-07: .497 eFG%
    2007-08: .497 eFG%
    2008-09: .500 eFG%
    2009-10: .501 eFG%
    2010-11: .498 eFG%
    2011-12: .485 eFG%

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    Default Re: 1984-85 Lakers shot an NBA team record 54.5 FG%

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce Bigalow
    I thought handchecking made it tougher on offensive players?
    It made it tougher on perimeter players.

    Why are you using a team stat ?

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    Default Re: 1984-85 Lakers shot an NBA team record 54.5 FG%

    Quote Originally Posted by bwink23
    I'm sorry i had to point out the retardedness of your posts....you have no argument, cuz even the numbers don't line up for you
    You can't spell, so don't try retard

    and here is the facts

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce Bigalow
    1984-85: .496 eFG%
    1985-86: .493 eFG%
    1986-87: .488 eFG%
    1987-88: .489 eFG%
    1988-89: .489 eFG%
    1989-90: .489 eFG%
    1990-91: .487 eFG%
    1991-92: .487 eFG%
    1992-93: .491 eFG%
    1993-94: .485 eFG%
    1994-95: .500 eFG%
    1995-96: .499 eFG%
    1996-97: .493 eFG%

    2004-05: .482 eFG%
    2005-06: .490 eFG%
    2006-07: .497 eFG%
    2007-08: .497 eFG%
    2008-09: .500 eFG%
    2009-10: .501 eFG%
    2010-11: .498 eFG%
    2011-12: .485 eFG%

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