How come a top 10 player was the best player in the league for just 1 year?

[Black and White]

Sadly, people on both sides of the equation are too simpleminded to grasp that concept.

Then its a sad world that we live in where someone gets hated on for their talent.

Kobe is my favourite player, but that does not stop me from saying that LeBron James is the best player in the world, is it really that hard to say???

[The JKidd Kid]

Lebron wasn't the best player in 2011.

And Kobe had a 3 year run as the best in the league. But, you knew that didn't you

Also, why single Kobe out concerning Shaq?

Without Pippen where would Jordan be?
Without an elite point guard where would Kareem be?
Without Kareem where would Magic be?
Without an elite guard where would Shaq be?
Without Kareem's longevity where would he be?
Without Wade or Bosh where would Bron be?

What's that? Embarrassing agenda is the reason why? Ohhhh, why didn't you say so!

None of the guys you mentioned are anywhere near Shaqs level of dominance.

[kennethgriffin]

jordan - 88,89,90,91,92,93,96,97,98
russell - 58,59,60,61,62,63,65
wilt - 64,66,67,68
kareem - 71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80
hakeem - 94,95
lebron - 11,12,13,14
shaq - 99,00,02
duncan - 03,05
magic - 85,87
bird - 84,85,86

kobe - 01,03,06,07,08,09,10

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best player of any year is just an opinion... anyone can take any player and say they werent the best at any point

[cos88]

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best player of any year is just an opinion... anyone can take any player and say they werent the best at any point

09 kobe better than 09 lebron?



09 lebron RS of plaoffs is better than anything kobe did in his life, RS/playoffs. dominance every single game, too bad potato head ( which all lakers fans called a great coach before joining lakers ) fukked cavs



edit: i'll stop here, just read you put kobe the best player in the league for 7 years LMAO

[NumberSix]

Kobe has only ever been the best for stretches of a month or two here or there. Dude gets on hot streaks and then goes on extremely cold streaks. He's an all time great, but IMO his biggest knock is he's wildly inconsistent.

[Mr Know It All]

He was in 2006 and 2007.

Some of those performances during those years were flat out scary. He was extremely dominant on most nights offensively, though he did do his critics justice by being such a high volume shooter on other nights. His lack of talent surrounding him, lack of trust in the players he did have, and confidence in his abilities to the extent that he knew he could make any shot anywhere, are all to blame for that. I think many times in Kobe's career, his skill has done him a disservice. He knows how good he is, and attempts to illustrate that all too often instead of picking his spots.

It's why instead of being maybe a top 5 player of all time, he's only 8 or 9th.

False.

Dirk was just as good if not better statistically and led his team's to 60+ win records and a Finals appearance. Kobe the best SCORER in the league? Yes, you could easily make that argument. Best player though is refutable and highly debatable. Whereas with the players OP mentioned it was without any doubt.

Kobe's reputation is the product of his individual scoring and team success (more than half of which was achieved with the most dominant player of the modern era at the C position). Kobe Bryant (or, should I say, the reputation of Kobe Bryant) is a product of the ESPN hype machine trying their darndest to manufacture another Michael Jordan like figure for the NBA. Many people bought this propaganda, and that is why there is legitimate belief he is a top 10 player, even though his raw statistical output indicates that this is clearly not the case.

Advanced statistics have been embraced by every single credible NBA mind. Yet the myth of Kobe is still propagated by frauds who either are ignorant or have an agenda to defend. I can't really blame them. Hell, this is a crop of journalists who voted for Steve Nash as back to back MVP.

[Dresta]

And Derrick Rose in 2011...

[LAZERUSS]

how is this possible?

best players in the league (top10alltime, no order):

jordan - 88,89,90,91,92,93,96,97,98
russell - 58,59,60,61,62,63,65
wilt - 64,66,67,68
kareem - 71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80
hakeem - 94,95
lebron - 09,11,12,13,14
shaq - 99,00,01,02
duncan - 03,05,07
magic - 85,87
bird - 84,85,86






the only player in the top 10 without shaq and without his longevity where would kobe be?

58. dwight howard
59. kobe bryant
60. vince carter
61. mitch richmond

If you are going by MVP voting, Chamberlain was the best player in the league in his rookie season. And he finished ahead of Russell in the '64 voting, but behind Oscar (and should have won it.) Oh, and somehow Russell beat him out in the '62 voting. Maybe you can explain how Wilt could easily beat Russell out in '60, and then lose to him in '62.

Oh, and one more point about the Russell-Wilt years...

Chamberlain held a 7-2 edge in first-team all-NBA teams in the decade of the 60's (and somehow was nowhere to be found in the '69 voting, despite blowing away Reed, Unseld, and Russell in their H2H's.)

[ballinhun8]

Kobe was the best in the league from 05-08.


There's no denying that. No one could stop him when for his lengthy scoring streaks. He just had sh*tty teammates like Smush and Chris Mihm to try to contend with in the West.

[PickernRoller]

Last I checked Kobe reigned supreme till 2010. Anyone saying his reign ended after 08 is deluded. Fact is you take Kobe 09' and 10' 10 out of 10 times if you want a ring those years - over Lebron. Anyone credible enough thought so, said so and admitted so. Lebron stans rewriting history is too funny.

Even Lebron admitted so. Something his tards never bring up.

2006-2010 unarguably the best player in the league. 2011 was a given with his knees finally blowing up getting shipped to Germany. 2011 forward undoubtedly Lebron but not till then.

[Psileas]

jordan - 88,89,90,91,92,93,96,97,98
russell - 58,59
wilt - 60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69
kareem - 71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80
hakeem - 94,95
lebron - 09,11,12,13,14
shaq - 99,00,01,02
duncan - 03,05,07
magic - 85,87
bird - 84,85,86

Partially fixed.

[gts]

Good to see they're banning idiots for starting idiot threads finally

[Heavincent]

False.

Dirk was just as good if not better statistically and led his team's to 60+ win records and a Finals appearance. Kobe the best SCORER in the league? Yes, you could easily make that argument. Best player though is refutable and highly debatable. Whereas with the players OP mentioned it was without any doubt.

Kobe's reputation is the product of his individual scoring and team success (more than half of which was achieved with the most dominant player of the modern era at the C position). Kobe Bryant (or, should I say, the reputation of Kobe Bryant) is a product of the ESPN hype machine trying their darndest to manufacture another Michael Jordan like figure for the NBA. Many people bought this propaganda, and that is why there is legitimate belief he is a top 10 player, even though his raw statistical output indicates that this is clearly not the case.

Advanced statistics have been embraced by every single credible NBA mind. Yet the myth of Kobe is still propagated by frauds who either are ignorant or have an agenda to defend. I can't really blame them. Hell, this is a crop of journalists who voted for Steve Nash as back to back MVP.

[fpliii]

Hakeem>Jordan in 93

[Mr Know It All]

Just the kind of rebuttal I would expect from a Kobe fan.