Westbrooks stats are very overrated.

[Marchesk]

OKC with Westbrook less Durant is 14 wins 11 losses.

He is 10-1 against teams under 0.500
He is 4-10 against teams above 0.500

Westbrook is playing teams by himself? Impressive.

Yes, his stats are overrated as he dominates bad teams but isn't as effective against good teams. His usage rate is very high, when your teammates pass the ball to you everytime and you take a shot of course your stats gonna look good.

Maybe because they're good teams and the Thunder are missing the league MVP to provide balance?

[imdaman99]

5-11 without Westbrook.
32-19 with Westbrook.

Empty stats if I ever seen em

[tgan3]

Westbrook is playing teams by himself? Impressive.



Maybe because they're good teams and the Thunder are missing the league MVP to provide balance?

Well the point of the thread is to discuss whether if his stats were overrated. Which in my opinion is because he does it against bad teams. I don't blame him for the losses by the way.

[Jacks3]

expect he's had plenty of great performances against good/great teams.

[SwayDizzle]

Superstars cannot just do it by themselves, no matter how good they are. You need help to win games and the Thunder without Durant on the court is not enough help to get the wins needed even with Westbrook playing as insane as he has.

Two of the biggest examples of this being:
Kobe's Lakers in 05/6/7 were 45 and 42 win teams
Lebron's pre Miami teams in Cleveland never won it all.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

expect he's had plenty of great performances against good/great teams.

This, even if he can't get the win it's not like he disappears against good teams.

This thread is clearly agenda driven given who the OP is. Current Westbrook > MVP Rose. Take MVP Rose and put him on the current Thunder, at best he wins as many games as Westbrook has.

[greatest-ever]

5-11 without Westbrook.
32-19 with Westbrook.

The 2nd record can't be with just Westbrook because he hasn't played that many games without KD.

[UK2K]

5-11 without Westbrook.
32-19 with Westbrook.

Um...

Those 16 games without Westbrook also had no Durant.

So they are 5-11 without Westbrook and Durant. Stop trying to twist facts around.

They are 8-5 since Durant went down. Want to take a guess at how many of those 8 wins came against teams with winning records?

[SugarHill]

OP hates Westbrook because he's insecure about Rose

[imdaman99]

They are 8-5 since Durant went down. Want to take a guess at how many of those 8 wins came against teams with winning records?

Wanna take a guess how often good teams lose at home? Are good teams easier to beat on the road? Like your drivel isn't agenda driven.

[UK2K]

Wanna take a guess how often good teams lose at home? Are good teams easier to beat on the road? Like your drivel isn't agenda driven.

I dont even know what your point is.

My point was, they are 7-5 with Westbrook since Durant went down last (he didnt play against LAL).

Now, your turn. Refute that.

[imdaman99]

I dont even know what your point is.

My point was, they are 7-5 with Westbrook since Durant went down last (he didnt play against LAL).

Now, your turn. Refute that.

Mavs, Blazers, Clips, Bulls, and Suns are all good teams and 4 of those losses were on the road. Are you gonna tell me he has to win those games? How often do teams go and win on their home courts? I suppose good teams suck at home and OKC should win there shorthanded right?

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Mavs, Blazers, Clips, Bulls, and Suns are all good teams and 4 of those losses were on the road. Are you gonna tell me he has to win those games? How often do teams go and win on their home courts? I suppose good teams suck at home and OKC should win there shorthanded right?

Losing to the Bulls came at the hands of some flukey three point shooting, they lost to the Blazers by a small margin, same with the Suns and Mavs iirc.

[imdaman99]

Losing to the Bulls came at the hands of some flukey three point shooting, they lost to the Blazers by a small margin, same with the Suns and Mavs iirc.

Exactly, the only game they were outclassed in was the Clippers game and that was more a fluke than anything because the Clips can go crazy at any time. Westbrook has accepted blame for all the losses, because that's what leaders do.

The guy is basically shitting on Westbrook to prop Harden up. I am in agreeance with him that Harden deserves the MVP over Westbrook easily because of the records, so what other agenda could he have?

[tmacattack33]

He's been great to me. A +.

I fully expect him to go downward horribly from this. Those terrible shots he has been making won't always be going in. He will come back to being a 41% FG shooter soon enough.