was any of the MJ-Pippen team better than this Miami Heat?

[nashwade]

if so, why do they not put an 'asterisk' beside all of MJ's rings?

i mean on top of the duo they had f**king rodman plus key role players. how stacked was that?

[Quickening]

Jordan should have one next to his name for not doing anything in playoffs until he got a stacked team.

[LBJDW305]

if so, why do they not put an 'asterisk' beside all of MJ's rings?

i mean on top of the duo they had f**king rodman plus key role players. how stacked was that?

Jordan's team was way more stacked then this Miami team...

[Nash-tastic]

Pippen was not the second best player in the league

[Hittin_Shots]

Mostly because you're gay.

[dee-rose]

Pippen never won a chip by himself before teaming up with MJ. He was never the 2nd best player in the league either. Rodman > Bosh but Bosh > Grant.

[jbryan1984]

After the superstars, we have
Rodman vs. Bosh
Kukoc vs. Haslem
Harper vs. Chalmers
Kerr vs. Miller
Longley vs. Anthony


Hmmmmm?

[Sarcastic]

Jordan should have one next to his name for not doing anything in playoffs until he got a stacked team.

You mean the years when he put up numbers like
44/6/6
36/7/6
36/7/5
35/7/7
37/7/7

Those are the years when he did nothing?

[ShaqAttack3234]

Jordan's teams were clearly better, but not sure about more talented. But they had a much better half court offense, were a better defensive team, more motivated and mentally tough, and had a vastly superior coach. They got the most out of their talent.

Lebron is the best player in the league, Wade is probably still top 5, and was arguably top 2 last year, and Bosh is a 7-time all-star who was putting up 24/11 as the 1st option, as their 3rd option.

Unlike Miami, none of Jordan's teams were the most talented team in the league. In the first 3peat there was Phoenix, Portland, Detroit, and LA off the top of my head. And in the second 3peat, there was Orlando the first year, as well as Seattle, Houston with the big 3 in '97, some pretty loaded Heat and Knick teams, and the '98 Lakers.

Not sure if all of those teams were more talented, but some definitely were, and I can't think of a year where Chicago had the most talent in their rotation.

And Lebron's title shouldn't get an asterisk, but how many teams have a 2nd option as good as Wade, and only 2 title teams in the 00's or 10's had a 3rd option even arguably as good as Bosh, and those are the '07 Spurs with Manu/Parker(whoever you consider 3rd) and that's debatable, and maybe Ray Allen in '08, though Allen didn't play that well his first year there.

And even if you go back through the 90's, you'll find just one other championship team with a 3rd guy arguably as good as Bosh, and that's Rodman in '96.

[TheMan]

if so, why do they not put an 'asterisk' beside all of MJ's rings?

i mean on top of the duo they had f**king rodman plus key role players. how stacked was that?

If you're gonna put asterisks on stacked teams, you gonna have an endless list, Magic's Lakers, Bird's Celtics, Dr. J's 76ers, Shaq's Lakers, Thomas' Pistons, Russell's Celtics etc...

Teams that win NBA titles are usually stacked, this year's Heat are top heavy and if either Wade, LeBron or Bosh are off, they struggle because the Heat's role players are not very good. I'll be shocked if they win it all because they are still very flawed and it means the Big 3 were all dominant because they won't be getting much from the other guys other than hustle and defense.

[ShaqAttack3234]

If you're gonna put asterisks on stacked teams, you gonna have an endless list, Magic's Lakers, Bird's Celtics, Dr. J's 76ers, Shaq's Lakers, Thomas' Pistons, Russell's Celtics etc

Shaq's 3peat Lakers weren't stacked. He had a phenomenal second option(probably the best ever in '01 and '02), but those teams never had a 3rd guy near all-star level, and on only one of those 3peat teams did they have a 3rd guy who was a capable scoring threat, and that was a declining Glen Rice who was inconsistent and didn't fit in the offense. Those teams had clear holes such as bench scoring, 3 point shooting, and sometimes multiple players on the court who weren't scoring/shooting threats.

The one team you could argue was is the '01 team because of how good the duo was, and because Fisher got really hot in the playoffs, Grant helped a lot with post defense, and Fox was the glue guy. Though 2 superstars and role players isn't really the definition of stacked, which usually refers to depth.

[TheMan]

You mean the years when he put up numbers like
44/6/6
36/7/6
36/7/5
35/7/7
37/7/7

Those are the years when he did nothing?

Quickening just got butt fvcked by this post, watch him run and hide

If those were the stats Bronzy put up during his Cavs years, he would be screaming that LBJ did all he could and he got no help from his garbage teammates

[D-Wade316]

All those championship teams were better than this Heat team.

[markymark]

Jordan's teams were clearly better, but not sure about more talented. But they had a much better half court offense, were a better defensive team, more motivated and mentally tough, and had a vastly superior coach. They got the most out of their talent.

Lebron is the best player in the league, Wade is probably still top 5, and was arguably top 2 last year, and Bosh is a 7-time all-star who was putting up 24/11 as the 1st option, as their 3rd option.

Unlike Miami, none of Jordan's teams were the most talented team in the league. In the first 3peat there was Phoenix, Portland, Detroit, and LA off the top of my head. And in the second 3peat, there was Orlando the first year, as well as Seattle, Houston with the big 3 in '97, some pretty loaded Heat and Knick teams, and the '98 Lakers.

Not sure if all of those teams were more talented, but some definitely were, and I can't think of a year where Chicago had the most talent in their rotation.

And Lebron's title shouldn't get an asterisk, but how many teams have a 2nd option as good as Wade, and only 2 title teams in the 00's or 10's had a 3rd option even arguably as good as Bosh, and those are the '07 Spurs with Manu/Parker(whoever you consider 3rd) and that's debatable, and maybe Ray Allen in '08, though Allen didn't play that well his first year there.

And even if you go back through the 90's, you'll find just one other championship team with a 3rd guy arguably as good as Bosh, and that's Rodman in '96.

Bosh and Rodman don't even belong in the same sentence.

[TheMan]

All those championship teams were better than this Heat team.

No shit, Captain Obvious.

That's why if Miami wins it all this year it'll mean either the Heat's role players stepped up and contributed in 4 of 7 games in every series (doubtful) or LBJ, Wade and Bosh just flat out dominated (could happen but look at last year's Finals for a reference).

If the Heat fall short again it's mostly gonna be on the FO for not fixing their flaws, the Heat don't need All Stars at the PG and C position, they just need to upgrade them to where they don't suck.