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Re: Harden putting to bed Kobe's 05-06 scoring flashes, but on a winning team
Originally Posted by LoneyROY7
The year Kobe averaged 35.4...
AI averaged 33.0
LeBron averaged 31.4
Arenas averaged 29.3
This year, Paul George is the closet at 28.2 to Harden's 36.5
Some interesting food for thought.
ETHER.. Plus Harden is doing it in clutch moments.. He is doing it against great defensive teams as well.. Kobe mostly feasted against bad defensive teams..
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NBA lottery pick
Re: Harden putting to bed Kobe's 05-06 scoring flashes, but on a winning team
Originally Posted by LoneyROY7
Harden averages 1 FTA less than MJ did the year he averaged 37.1.
mj's ftr that season: .427 (0.8 3s attempted/gm)
beard's this season: .452 (13.3 3s attempted/gm)
mj's career: .358 (1.6 3s attempted/gm)
beard's career: .528 (7.2 3s attempted/gm)
absurd that a dude who takes that ridiculous amount of 3s is getting to the line that often. think about how much flopping you have to do to accomplish that.
disgusting.
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Brooklyn
Re: Harden putting to bed Kobe's 05-06 scoring flashes, but on a winning team
Originally Posted by NBASTATMAN
ETHER.. Plus Harden is doing it in clutch moments.. He is doing it against great defensive teams as well.. Kobe mostly feasted against bad defensive teams..
I thought it was interesting, because I vividly remember years back people talking about how '05-'06 was an outlier for scoring numbers.
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Brooklyn
Re: Harden putting to bed Kobe's 05-06 scoring flashes, but on a winning team
Originally Posted by SomeBlackDude
mj's ftr that season: .427 (0.8 3s attempted/gm)
beard's this season: .452 (13.3 3s attempted/gm)
mj's career: .358 (1.6 3s attempted/gm)
beard's career: .528 (7.2 3s attempted/gm)
absurd that a dude who takes that ridiculous amount of 3s is getting to the line that often. think about how much flopping you have to do to accomplish that.
disgusting.
Umm you do realize why his FTr is lower, right? Because MJ took 3 more shots attempts a game than Harden is.
Nice one, genius.
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NBA lottery pick
Re: Harden putting to bed Kobe's 05-06 scoring flashes, but on a winning team
Originally Posted by LoneyROY7
Umm you do realize why his FTr is lower, right? Because MJ took 3 more shots attempts a game than Harden is.
Nice one, genius.
mike and kobe took roughly the same amount of shots in their best scoring seasons. kobe took far more 3s. kobe had a lower ftr that season, as logic would dictate.
kobe in '06: .377 ftr (6.5 3s/gm)
kobe's career: .382 (4.1 3s/gm)
go ahead and bullshit your way through this one.
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Brooklyn
Re: Harden putting to bed Kobe's 05-06 scoring flashes, but on a winning team
Originally Posted by SomeBlackDude
mike and kobe took roughly the same amount of shots in their best scoring seasons. kobe took far more 3s. kobe had a lower ftr that season, as logic would dictate.
kobe in '06: .377 ftr (6.5 3s/gm)
kobe's career: .382 (4.1 3s/gm)
go ahead and bullshit your way through this one.
You're so stuck on "oh he shoots so many threes, why he get calls!?!!?"
Harden takes 3s and lay-ups. He drives to the rim more than any other perimeter player in the league. He doesn't shoot the mass amount of mid-range shots that MJ/Kobe did. He drives more than Kobe ever did. The majority of his FTs are given off of drives/attacking the rim.
But hey keep selling yourself this false narrative, champ.
Last edited by LoneyROY7; 03-23-2019 at 02:26 AM.
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9x All Defensive 1st
Re: Harden putting to bed Kobe's 05-06 scoring flashes, but on a winning team
Originally Posted by LoneyROY7
You're so stuck on "oh he shoots so many threes, why he get calls!?!!?"
Harden takes 3s and lay-ups. He drives to the rim more than any other perimeter player in the league. He doesn't shoot the mass amount of mid-range shots that MJ/Kobe did. He drives more than Kobe ever did. The majority of his FTs are given off of drives from attacking the rim.
But hey keep selling yourself this false narrative, champ.
He is very dense and wont get it but good luck anyway man
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Bron/Brady not top 10
Re: Harden putting to bed Kobe's 05-06 scoring flashes, but on a winning team
I don't even want to imagine how many consecutive 60 point games 06 Kobe would have in today's game, especially in this Rockets team tailor-made towards Harden's iso ability and loaded with shooters... but Kobe was a better iso player and also shot 35% from 3s. Imagine giving him the greenlight to shoot 17 3s which no one did 10 years ago and also having more space to operate due to all these shooters
Hell, 06 LeBron would probably averge 40 ppg on this Rockets team. Only reason 34 year old Bron isn't doing this is, one, he's not on this Rockets team and two he's also way past his prime
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Re: Harden putting to bed Kobe's 05-06 scoring flashes, but on a winning team
Originally Posted by LoneyROY7
The year Kobe averaged 35.4...
AI averaged 33.0
LeBron averaged 31.4
Arenas averaged 29.3
This year, Paul George is the closet at 28.2 to Harden's 36.5
Some interesting food for thought.
It's a matter of circumstance. Let's say PG was a lone star on an average team like AI in 2006, you don't think he could average 33 ppg? How about Durant? There are plenty of great scorers who could do the same, but they're either on stacked teams or have a 2nd big scorer on their team.
George had a 30-game stretch of averaging 33 ppg prior to his injury.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Harden putting to bed Kobe's 05-06 scoring flashes, but on a winning team
Originally Posted by 3ball
Drtg:
2019 - 110.2
2006 - 106.2
Pace:
2019 - 100
2006 -[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] 90
PPG:
2019 - 111
2006 - [COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR]97
First post ether
Op has the basketball iq of a handicapped person
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Harden putting to bed Kobe's 05-06 scoring flashes, but on a winning team
Harden is a fraud but he's better than Kobe ever was that is a fact
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GOAT
Re: Harden putting to bed Kobe's 05-06 scoring flashes, but on a winning team
Originally Posted by LAmbruh
Crazy
Imagine the backing and fanboy hype have if given a big market LA fanbase guzzling him for 20 years
His boy is missing the playoffs, so now this dude gonna jump ship and stan Harden.
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Landslide honors
Re: Harden putting to bed Kobe's 05-06 scoring flashes, but on a winning team
Originally Posted by LoneyROY7
The year Kobe averaged 35.4...
AI averaged 33.0
LeBron averaged 31.4
Arenas averaged 29.3
This year, Paul George is the closet at 28.2 to Harden's 36.5
Some interesting food for thought.
damn, everyone and their grams was putting up numbers back then
just shows how meaningless it was
5*
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Harden putting to bed Kobe's 05-06 scoring flashes, but on a winning team
Originally Posted by LoneyROY7
The year Kobe averaged 35.4...
AI averaged 33.0
LeBron averaged 31.4
Arenas averaged 29.3
This year, Paul George is the closet at 28.2 to Harden's 36.5
Some interesting food for thought.
^^^^ good point
But look at the comp.. Paul George is normally a 25 ppg guy that is having his career year - yet he's #2
Whereas AI and lebron are better scorers than George
A real gap over great players was when MJ averageed 37 and bird/Dominique/English/McHale averaged 26-29
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Re: Harden putting to bed Kobe's 05-06 scoring flashes, but on a winning team
I mean Kobe's backcourt mate was Smush Parker and Harden has Chris Paul.
You know. Just food for thought.
But continue with your Kobe bashing. I'm sure you'll still be creating topics in two years when he is giving his headlining HoF speech.
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