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Old 03-21-2018, 09:15 AM   #31
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Default Re: Kenyon Martin: Lebron has NEVER BEEN a LOCKDOWN defender

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Just watched the video. K-Mart is legit brain damaged. No wonder he went off on J-Lin. He asks if AI was a good defender because he had a ton of steals and states that he made the All-NBA team. Does he not know that All-NBA and All-Def teams are two completely different things?
I would be too after I let Kobe drop 34/6/6 on 48% shooting two years in a row.
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Old 03-21-2018, 09:20 AM   #32
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Default Re: Kenyon Martin: Lebron has NEVER BEEN a LOCKDOWN defender

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Old 03-21-2018, 09:28 AM   #33
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Default Re: Kenyon Martin: Lebron has NEVER BEEN a LOCKDOWN defender

Yeah, but I'll take a really good defender who can guard 4 positions over a guy who can lock down one position.
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Old 03-21-2018, 09:35 AM   #34
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That guy let another SF drop 35 points on 56% on him and his stans wanna talk about "guarding 1 to 5"
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Old 03-21-2018, 11:20 AM   #35
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Default Re: Kenyon Martin: Lebron has NEVER BEEN a LOCKDOWN defender

I remembered he locked down MVP Derrick Rose pretty good
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Old 03-21-2018, 12:40 PM   #36
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Default Re: Kenyon Martin: Lebron has NEVER BEEN a LOCKDOWN defender

I have a soft spot for Kenyan and all he did for the Nets, but he is turning to the old guy who's like "in my day.." and all that rhetoric.
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Old 03-21-2018, 12:41 PM   #37
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Default Re: Kenyon Martin: Lebron has NEVER BEEN a LOCKDOWN defender

The only player Lebron has ever truly locked down was himself in 2011, but even then he got quite a bit of help from Barea, Kidd, and Terry.
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Old 03-21-2018, 01:11 PM   #38
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Default Re: Kenyon Martin: Lebron has NEVER BEEN a LOCKDOWN defender

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Old 03-21-2018, 01:18 PM   #39
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Default Re: Kenyon Martin: Lebron has NEVER BEEN a LOCKDOWN defender

At his best, Bron was a great man on man defender. BUT guys like Bowen, Tony Allen, etc. are defensive specialists. They are on the court for that SOLE REASON pretty much. BECAUSE if they didn't have that ability, they might not even be in the league.

However only a SMALL AMOUNT of perimeter players were great scorers and great defenders in one package. Bron at one point was one of those rare guys. MJ, Kobe, West, Hondo, and Wade as well. Kawhi entered that realm once his scoring picked up.

But it takes A LOT of energy to check a great scorer ALL NIGHT and still be a great scorer at the same time. Other guys who aren't great scorers have more energy to expend defensively. But once MJ locked in, he could defend AS GOOD ad anybody on the perimeter. Once Bron LOCKED IN, he could be a great defender. So I think great two way players should be celebrated JUST AS MUCH as defensive specialists. Maybe even a bit more when u think about it!

So some scorers MIGHT NOT put Bron on that level BECAUSE he wasn't hounding them all night long! Bron is more of a two way guy. Capable of being a great defender AND great scorer! Plus his ability to guard almost every damn position made him unique from many other great perimeter defenders. That's why the analysts MAKE THE DISTINCTION between defensive specialists AND two way players. The two way guys can be DEFENSIVE SPECIALISTS. BUT the DEFENSIVE SPECIALISTS can't be DOMINANT SCORERS!
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