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    Default Were Nash & Rose top 5 players in the league the years they won MVP?

    '05 is one of the hardest seasons to rank players, as no one clearly established themselves as the best in the league, and ranking a top 5 that year is extremely difficult. But considering the Suns turnaround with his arrival, helping lead his team to the most wins in the league, plus playing as well as anybody else in the playoffs, I'd consider Nash a top 5 player in '05

    '06 is a lot easier, and I'd easily rank Kobe, Wade, Dirk, LeBron, and Duncan over Nash, and there's arguably a couple others others you could as well

    As for 2011, I'd rank Dirk, Dwight, LeBron, Wade, and Durant over Rose, but if you swapped out Durant for Rose I wouldn't necessarily disagree

    What say you ISH?

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    Default Re: Were Nash & Rose top 5 players in the league the years they won MVP?

    Dirk wasn't a top 5 player in 2011

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    Default Re: Were Nash & Rose top 5 players in the league the years they won MVP?

    They were top 1. MVP = best player in the league

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    Default Re: Were Nash & Rose top 5 players in the league the years they won MVP?

    Quote Originally Posted by branslowski
    Dirk wasn't a top 5 player in 2011
    Thoughts Bill?


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    Default Re: Were Nash & Rose top 5 players in the league the years they won MVP?

    of course they were,

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    Default Re: Were Nash & Rose top 5 players in the league the years they won MVP?

    Quote Originally Posted by branslowski
    Dirk wasn't a top 5 player in 2011
    What the **** are you talking about?

    He led the league in RAPM in the regular season and led that mediocre supporting cast that sucked with him off the floor to a 55-18 record...2-7 without him.

    Then was easily the best player overall in the playoffs.

    If that doesn't warrant top 5...we might as well just stop talking basketball.

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    Default Re: Were Nash & Rose top 5 players in the league the years they won MVP?

    Nash was top 5 in 06 easily

    Rose was top 5 in 11 easily

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    Default Re: Were Nash & Rose top 5 players in the league the years they won MVP?

    Quote Originally Posted by IncarceratedBob
    They were top 1. MVP = best player in the league


    It doesn't mean that at all.

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    Default Re: Were Nash & Rose top 5 players in the league the years they won MVP?

    Yes

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    Default Re: Were Nash & Rose top 5 players in the league the years they won MVP?

    Yes, that's why they won MVPs.

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    Default Re: Were Nash & Rose top 5 players in the league the years they won MVP?

    I would definitely say Nash was Top 5 in 05, but I am not sure about 06.

    Dirk was definitely top 5 in 11, no doubt.

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    Default Re: Were Nash & Rose top 5 players in the league the years they won MVP?

    Why do idiots still try to bring postseason success into MVP conversations? It's 2015, do you retards not understand how irrelevant that is.

    25 points per game/7 assists per game/4 rebounds per game/1 steal per game

    Anyway, best player on the best team. (funny because people criticize Rose for winning the award but believe Curry was the MVP this year)

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    Default Re: Were Nash & Rose top 5 players in the league the years they won MVP?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightTwoCensor
    Why do idiots still try to bring postseason success into MVP conversations? It's 2015, do you retards not understand how irrelevant that is.

    25 points per game/7 assists per game/4 rebounds per game/1 steal per game

    Anyway, best player on the best team. (funny because people criticize Rose for winning the award but believe Curry was the MVP this year)
    The OP asked if they were top 5 players the year they won MVP....and is including the playoffs.

    That is different than MVP.

    One can think Nash deserved MVP, but wasn't the best player in the league.

    I'm not sure why people like you can't see the difference.

    I rarely see people say Rose doesn't deserve the MVP actually. It's just that he clearly wasn't the best player in the game.

    I don't think Curry was the best either, but he has a better case than Rose did.

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    Default Re: Were Nash & Rose top 5 players in the league the years they won MVP?

    Quote Originally Posted by IncarceratedBob
    They were top 1. MVP = best player in the league
    MVP doesn't mean that at all

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    Default Re: Were Nash & Rose top 5 players in the league the years they won MVP?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightTwoCensor
    Why do idiots still try to bring postseason success into MVP conversations? It's 2015, do you retards not understand how irrelevant that is.

    25 points per game/7 assists per game/4 rebounds per game/1 steal per game

    Anyway, best player on the best team. (funny because people criticize Rose for winning the award but believe Curry was the MVP this year)
    except no, the criteria changes every year

    if the criteria was "best player on the best team" Shaq would have 2+ MVPs

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