Peak Play: Kobe vs Bird vs Magic vs Hakeem

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Larry>Hakeem>Kobe>Magic

[I<3NBA]

Bird>Magic>Hakeem>Kobe

[millwad]

Magic meant much more to Kareem than it was the other way around. In 88 Kareem was kind of in the way. Magic would have won in '91 if he didn't run into a very hungry Jordan and Pippen in the finals as well (Worthy and Scott got injured as well). Magic was always a contender and winner. And was the best team player ever, at least in the modern era.

This post is pretty terrible, so Magic would have won if he didn't run into a hungry Jordan and Pippen. You could say this about so many teams and players, a terrible argument.

Magic was always a contender because of the roster he was on, he played with James Worthy who is one of the best SF's ever, Kareem who is the best center of all-time and he had very good role players by his side.

You mention '88, Kareem was getting up in age but Magic wasn't even the Finals MVP, Worthy was. The same Worthy was the one who sealed the deal as well in game 7 with his massive triple double a la:

36 points, 16 rebounds and 10 assists

[LAZERUSS]

This post is pretty terrible, so Magic would have won if he didn't run into a hungry Jordan and Pippen. You could say this about so many teams and players, a terrible argument.

Magic was always a contender because of the roster he was on, he played with James Worthy who is one of the best SF's ever, Kareem who is the best center of all-time and he had very good role players by his side.

You mention '88, Kareem was getting up in age but Magic wasn't even the Finals MVP, Worthy was. The same Worthy was the one who sealed the deal as well in game 7 with his massive triple double a la:

36 points, 16 rebounds and 10 assists

A typical dumbass response with no research.

Worthy's '88 Finals numbers...

22.0 ppg, 7.4 rpg, 4.4 apg, .491 FG%, .735 FT%


Magic's '88 Finals numbers...

21.0 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 13.0 apg, .550 FG%, .866 FT%.

Magic was ROBBED of the FMVP in '88.


As for "the best center of all-time"...

13.1 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 1.0 apg, .414 FG%, .714 FT%

And how about "the best center of all-time" in that game seven...

29 minutes, 4 pts, 3 rebs, 2 ast, 3 TOs, 1 blk, 5 PF, 2-7 FG/FGA, 0-0 FT/FTA.

That was arguably the WORST Finals series ever put up by a "GOAT" candidate, and the game seven surely was.


The reality was... the Lakers would have won a title with Carrot Top playing center that year.

[andgar923]

Hakeem
Bird
Magic
Kobe

[LAZERUSS]

BTW, Magic's TEAMS averaged slightly over 59 wins per season in his 12 full seasons of his career, and over 60 without KAJ. Hakeem's career high single season TEAM W-L record was 58-24.

[Bob Dole]

BTW, Magic's TEAMS averaged slightly over 59 wins per season in his 12 full seasons of his career, and over 60 without KAJ. Hakeem's career high single season TEAM W-L record was 58-24.

Perspective and context. They have none of it.

[Pointguard]

This post is pretty terrible, so Magic would have won if he didn't run into a hungry Jordan and Pippen. You could say this about so many teams and players, a terrible argument.

How is it that other teams could claim that Worthy and Scott were injured? How does that work. Jordan, while always motivated, was a maniac about proving himself. And he smelt blood and didn't rest. This was Jordan possessed. When Magic lost his second and third best players it was hard to say the least. If you don't understand this then you really aren't going to understand a whole lot.

Magic was always a contender because of the roster he was on, he played with James Worthy who is one of the best SF's ever, Kareem who is the best center of all-time and he had very good role players by his side.

You mention '88, Kareem was getting up in age but Magic wasn't even the Finals MVP, Worthy was. The same Worthy was the one who sealed the deal as well in game 7 with his massive triple double a la:

36 points, 16 rebounds and 10 assists

Lazzeruss already dealt with this. Worthy wasn't near Magic's level of play. Worthy, like Kareem largely benefitted from Magic's great ability to get the most out of his players. Magic could feature a player and they would blossum under him. Magic was about 2 notches above Stockton who might have been the second best feature/passer to Magic in the history of the game. The play of Olympic teams and all star teams dipped significantly when Stockton came in for Magic. Nash/Kidd after Stockton in ability to feature other players. . There are about five levels between Magic and Chris Paul. If you didn't see him play you really can't imagine his total control of the game. Kareem was talking about retiring before Magic came to the Lakers. He played 10 more years because Magic made the game so easy.

Magic exploited every positive in Kareem/Worthy's game to maximum effect, never mind exploiting the defensive teams flaws. Magic is the best example of a player making those around him better. He was the best winner in the most competitive era.

[Audio One]

@ Hakeem peak. Dude won a championship as a third team all-nba performer. Robinson was just as his equal with production. At least

What Kobe did without Shaq is way superior than Hakeem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVWFIGhD980

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckXT-d0pFPg

Kobe was havin' nikkas sayin' he was better than Jordan, or least as good. Beat better teams, with less talent on that repeat. Hakeem was NEVER ON THAT LEVEL

[millwad]

A typical dumbass response with no research.

Worthy's '88 Finals numbers...

22.0 ppg, 7.4 rpg, 4.4 apg, .491 FG%, .735 FT%


Magic's '88 Finals numbers...

21.0 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 13.0 apg, .550 FG%, .866 FT%.

Magic was ROBBED of the FMVP in '88.


As for "the best center of all-time"...

13.1 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 1.0 apg, .414 FG%, .714 FT%

And how about "the best center of all-time" in that game seven...

29 minutes, 4 pts, 3 rebs, 2 ast, 3 TOs, 1 blk, 5 PF, 2-7 FG/FGA, 0-0 FT/FTA.

That was arguably the WORST Finals series ever put up by a "GOAT" candidate, and the game seven surely was.


The reality was... the Lakers would have won a title with Carrot Top playing center that year.

Jlauber, you're such a dumbass and we know that you didn't see the series to start with.

First of all, the worst finals series ever put up by a "GOAT" candidate doesn't belong to Kareem. You're a joke if you're actually going to try to bash a 40 year old Kareem. Where was Wilt when he was 40? Oh, he retired at age 36.

And Worthy was definitely worth his name to get the Finals MVP, he had a dominant series and one of the greatest game 7's in NBA history. Magic definitely had a case as the FMVP as well but he didn't get robbed.

And now I don't see Wilt as a a GOAT-candidate but if he would be he would have a great case for the worst finals series ever by a GOAT candidate with his awful choking in the '69 finals where he gave the series away from the FT-line. Biggest choke job of all-time.

[millwad]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVWFIGhD980

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckXT-d0pFPg

Kobe was havin' nikkas sayin' he was better than Jordan, or least as good. Beat better teams, with less talent on that repeat. Hakeem was NEVER ON THAT LEVEL

Jlauber, really?

Did you just write "nikkas", you're probably the most pathetic person I've come a cross on the internet.

[millwad]

Perspective and context. They have none of it.

Jlauber, don't you realize how pathetic you are?

You have everyone against you but 3 accounts you created in 2014 and the always retarded "Pointguard". You're failing in every aspect.