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Old 05-21-2019, 10:46 PM   #16
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Default Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?

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It's okay brah, Curry beats lebron in championships because he knows a better way to play basketball than lebron (ball movement, efficient offense, clutch)

So it doesn't matter that lebron can match Curry in this one area (impact on team ortg) - because lebron-ball has a much lower ceiling than curry-ball and can't win

it's apples and oranges tbh - this stat should only be used to compare winning brands of ball like Kobe/curry/durant, otherwise a bad brand/ball-domination can inflate the stat like it does for lebron
so not only do you cherry pick stats. you also cherry pick the time to use them
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Old 05-21-2019, 10:47 PM   #17
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SO FISHER had a bigger impact than KOBE.. IN THE NBAFINALS


THREAD IS OVER

https://stats.nba.com/team/161061274... LastNGames=5
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Old 05-21-2019, 10:49 PM   #18
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Default Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?

3ball on a Curry meltdown binger...seriously wtf is 3balls problem? Someone needs to take away this autistic ass retards access to the internet.
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Old 05-21-2019, 10:53 PM   #19
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Default Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?

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LeBron’s vorp smashes Jordan. Thanks for showing me the ins and outs of all the obscure stats of basketball reference. I wouldn’t have come to the realization that LeBron > Jordan otherwise.
In addition to Curry having a weaker offensive impact, as shown in the OP...

he's bad at contested jumpshots from three and midrange - his poor contested efficiency means he isn't an all-time jumpshooter

and 80% of his threes are open (system player), more than Dame or Harden
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Old 05-21-2019, 10:56 PM   #20
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In addition to Curry having a weaker offensive impact, as shown in the OP...

he's bad at contested jumpshots from three and midrange - his poor contested efficiency means he isn't an all-time jumpshooter

and 80% of his threes are open (system player), more than Dame or Harden

Sorry MJ wasn't an elite 3 point shooter
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Old 05-21-2019, 10:56 PM   #21
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Default Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?

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In addition to Curry having a weaker offensive impact, as shown in the OP...

he's bad at contested jumpshots from three and midrange - his poor contested efficiency means he isn't an all-time jumpshooter

and 80% of his threes are open (system player), more than Dame or Harden

Thanks for showing me the advanced stat section of basketball reference. LeBrons career VORP blows Jordan out of the water. Was always a big Jordan guy but I hate to admit it but LeBron is probably better.
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Old 05-21-2019, 10:56 PM   #22
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Default Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?

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SO FISHER had a bigger impact than KOBE.. IN THE NBAFINALS


THREAD IS OVER

https://stats.nba.com/team/161061274... LastNGames=5
My stats are for the whole playoffs and yours are for the last 5 games only

Kobe leads the Lakers by a mile for the whole playoffs (18.0 to Odom's 11.6)
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Old 05-21-2019, 10:57 PM   #23
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Default Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?

LeBron has more playoff points than MJ
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Old 05-21-2019, 10:57 PM   #24
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My stats are for the whole playoffs and yours are for the last 5 games only

Kobe leads the Lakers by a mile for the whole playoffs (18.0 to Odom's 11.6)

OP: Cherry picks
OP when someone else does the same:
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Old 05-21-2019, 10:59 PM   #25
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My stats are for the whole playoffs and yours are for the last 5 games only

Kobe leads the Lakers by a mile for the whole playoffs (18.0 to Odom's 11.6)


So he played great vs the shitty WEST TEAMS.. They play a soft brand of bball..

KOBE SHOULD NOT HAVE WON THE 2010 NBA FINALS.. He was horrid.. THANK YOU.. SO much more ammo
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Old 05-21-2019, 10:59 PM   #26
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OP: Cherry picks
OP when someone else does the same:
Using an entire playoff run isn't cherry-picking..

Not that it matters - Kobe's impact > Curry's.. that's all that matters
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Old 05-21-2019, 11:00 PM   #27
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Using an entire playoff run isn't cherry-picking..

Not that it matters - Kobe's impact > Curry's.. that's all that matters

It is when these players have MANY playoff runs. Face it, you're a cherry picking, autistic loser.
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Old 05-21-2019, 11:01 PM   #28
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Default Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?

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Using an entire playoff run isn't cherry-picking..

Not that it matters - Kobe's impact > Curry's.. that's all that matters
How about LeBron's impact. Leading everyone in playoff points
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Old 05-21-2019, 11:02 PM   #29
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Default Re: Why does team ORtg change more when Durant/Kobe leave the floor or return than Curry?

He’s definitely shifted his focus from Lebron to Curry.
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Old 05-21-2019, 11:03 PM   #30
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Sorry MJ wasn't an elite 3 point shooter

MJ was good at threes:

1) When it mattered - 43% on 3.3 attempts in 91-93' Finals.. 35.2% on 2.2 attempts in 85-93' playoffs

When he tried - he attempted less than 1.5 every year except 90' and 93' when he attempted 3+ and shot 38% and 35%

That's without practicing or thinking he needed it to win..

In today's game, his 3-point shot would be as elite as his fadeaway became - he'd be all-time from 3 just like midrange
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