Perfect example why Curry is NOT the best shooter ever.

[3ball]

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Team ORtg when Kobe/Curry are on and off floor (offensive impact)

Playoffs


08' Lakers ORtg [COLOR="White"].[/COLOR]with[COLOR="White"].''[/COLOR] Kobe - 109.9
08' Lakers ORtg w/out Kobe -.. 93.7
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[COLOR="White"]..................................[/COLOR][COLOR="Purple"]Difference - 16.2[/COLOR] [COLOR="Green"]<----- link to NBA.com source[/COLOR]


09' Lakers ORtg [COLOR="White"].[/COLOR]with[COLOR="White"].''[/COLOR] Kobe - 112.0
09' Lakers ORtg w/out Kobe -.. 94.0
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.................................[COLOR="Purple"]Difference - 18.0[/COLOR]


10' Lakers ORtg [COLOR="White"].[/COLOR]with[COLOR="White"].''[/COLOR] Kobe - 112.4
10' Lakers ORtg w/out Kobe -.. 96.4
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................................[COLOR="Purple"]Difference - 16.0[/COLOR]




19' Warrior ORtg [COLOR="White"].[/COLOR]with[COLOR="White"].''[/COLOR] Curry - 119.0
19' Warrior ORtg w/out Curry - 102.7
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.................................[COLOR="Navy"]Difference - 16.3[/COLOR]

Kobe is superior, so obviously MJ would destroy Curry's offensive impact

the media simply likes to overrate guys - it makes their job and analysis easier -;that's what they did with Bron and now Curry

They're overrating his offensive impact - the stats show that there's a bigger change in team ORtg when Kobe leaves the floor or comes back in than Curry - Kobe simply had bigger offensive impact

So the stats prove Kobe's greater impact, and therefore jordan's....

[3ball]

OP is right - he's a good mid-range shooter, but not a great one, and that disqualifies him from goat shooter title

The goat shooter is Bird, because he was all-time level at both threes and mid-range

Curry is goat at threes; MJ mid-range; Bird overall

But we already know the media overrated Curry, as evidenced by his so-called "goat" offensive impact - there's a bigger change in team ORtg when Kobe leaves the floor or comes back in than Curry (stats in previous post above).. so Curry's offensive impact can't even beat Kobe

/thread..

[tontoz]

The goat shooter is Bird, because he was all-time level at both threes and mid-range

Curry is goat at threes; MJ mid-range; Bird overall

Crap like this is why nobody takes you seriously.

Bird all-time level from 3? He averaged .7 made 3s per game shooting 37.6% for his career.

[3ball]

Crap like this is why nobody takes you seriously.

Bird all-time level from 3? He averaged .7 made 3s per game shooting 37.6% for his career.

Doesn't matter

Everyone knows the 3 was looked at different back then

Bird had a 3-point contest three-peat and predicted it before hand

He was ahead of his time and lethal from anywhere

[tontoz]

Doesn't matter

Everyone knows the 3 was looked at different back then

Bird had a 3-point contest three-peat and predicted it before hand

He was ahead of his time and lethal from anywhere

.7 made 3s shooting 37.6% = all time great




Birds career EFG% 51.4%
Jordan 50.9%
Curry 58.2%



Great 3 pt shooting >>> great midrange shooting

[PistonsFan#21]

Doesn't matter

Everyone knows the 3 was looked at different back then

Bird had a 3-point contest three-peat and predicted it before hand

He was ahead of his time and lethal from anywhere

Just like the midrange is looked at different now...It is not a shot most coaches would recommend due to analytics.

You can't discredit Curry from being a great midrange shooter because of low volume and then praise Bird for being an all time great 3point shooter with an average less than 1 3pt made per game for his career

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

2ball @ it again

The only way people read these posts is if you spam them. Not because they're insightful or even make sense.

Remember that.

I don't know what Curry's done to you BUT Jordan/Bird/Kobe all played with the 3PT line. And Curry simply shoots it better - nothing more, nothing less.

[ArbitraryWater]

i was gonna come in this thread and say lmao gtfoh, but the point is worth of consideration.

i still dont think that little scenario can make up the huge edge he has over anyone else though

[3ball]

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2019 Regular Season "closest defender" stats on 3-pointers


Curry





Total 3-point attempts per game:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 11.6
Attempts that are "open" (4-6 feet) or "wide open" (6+ feet):[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 9.3
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Percentage of attempts that are "open" or "wide open":[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 80.2%

Conclusion on [COLOR="Purple"]Curry[/COLOR] - he needs space to shoot threes, thus hurting him in the clutch compared to good mid-range players, who don't need any room and can get the shot whenever they want



Dame "Dollar"





Total 3-point attempts per game:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 7.9
Attempts that are "open" (4-6 feet) or "wide open" (6+ feet):[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 5.7
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Percentage of attempts that are "open" or "wide open":[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 72.2%

Conclusion on [COLOR="navy"]Dame[/COLOR] - he needs space to shoot threes, thus hurting him in the clutch compared to good mid-range players, who don't need any room and can get the shot whenever they want



Harden





Total 3-point attempts per game:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 13.0
Attempts that are "open" (4-6 feet) or "wide open" (6+ feet):[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 3.6
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Percentage of attempts that are "open" or "wide open":[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 27.7%

Conclusion on [COLOR="darkred"]Harden[/COLOR] - he DOESN'T need space to shoot threes, however, he only shoots about 30% on closely contested shots, so a player shooting under 50% from mid-range can match or exceed him

[3ball]

Just like the midrange is looked at different now...It is not a shot most coaches would recommend due to analytics.

You can't discredit Curry from being a great midrange shooter because of low volume and then praise Bird for being an all time great 3point shooter with an average less than 1 3pt made per game for his career

I discredit curry because he's garbage at making CONTESTED jumpers compared to bird or MJ

80% of curry's threes are "open" (4-6 feet from closest defender) or "wide open" (6+ feet) - see stats in previous post

so he shoots mostly open threes (system player) and isn't nearly the contested mid-range shooter that MJ or bird was

[tontoz]

The reason Curry is so "open" despite being targeted by every defense he faces is because of his movement without the ball, his ball handling skill and his deep range.

He is the only player I have ever seen get double teamed when he doesn't have the ball. Happens all the time.

Pretty sure opposing teams don't have "let Curry shoot open 3s" in their game plan.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

I discredit curry because he's garbage at making CONTESTED jumpers compared to bird or MJ

80% of curry's threes are "open" (4-6 feet from closest defender) or "wide open" (6+ feet) - see stats in previous post

so he shoots mostly open threes (system player) and isn't nearly the contested mid-range shooter that MJ or bird was

....

How is shooting 45% on "tightly contested twos" garbage?
How is shooting 55% on "contested twos" garbage?

You'd also need MJ and Bird's data to make that claim. Without it? We're only going by your word. Which has proven to be shit here.

[LostCause]

Wait.

So Curry traveled on one possession...wanting a 3 instead of a long 2...now he's no longer the GOAT shooter?

Undefeated logic if you're a walking vegetable, I guess.

I thought this was some type of reverse psychology troll thread. Turns out it isn't

Damn

[NBAGOAT]

the thing is it's hard to contest most of his 3's when curry's range goes out 35 feet. It's still just ridiculous to ask a big man to come that far out.

[RRR3]

Wait.

So Curry traveled on one possession...wanting a 3 instead of a long 2...now he's no longer the GOAT shooter?

Undefeated logic if you're a walking vegetable, I guess.

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