Could Lebron win a ring with no other all stars ?

[jzek]

No previous champion has won without at least one all star in history.

[Hey Yo]

As if he wasn't the main reason they won 60 games.

I think everyone that followed them closely knew they were regular season warriors, well suited for games against opposition that wouldn't prepare diligently. I have no idea how it's possible to blame LeBron for 09 when he put up close to a 40 point triple double against Orlando. As for 10, yes he quit, but his team wasn't good enough to win a championship. The Celtics were coached and set up better, they were frankly a better built team. And even if they were to get past the Celtics, Lebron's supporting cast has been known to shrivel up when it matters most. The quality outside Lebron wasn't there. Neither was the coaching. It was reduced to LeBron or bust, and you need a system when you lack stars. That or role players getting hot which never happened to him in that time period.

When a player puts up 27-19-10 in the playoffs, in a must win game......that's enough to show that he didn't quit.

[Smook A.]

Jesus Christ

2014 Spurs - Leonard, Duncan, Ginobili, Parker. All these guys are all-star level players
2013 Heat - LBJ, Wade, and Bosh.
2012 Heat - LBJ, Wade, and Bosh.
2011 Mavs - Dirk had help from Jason Terry (he played like an all-star)
2010 Lakers - Kobe & Pau
2009 Lakers - Kobe & Pau
2008 Celtics - Paul Pierce, KG, Ray Allen
2007 Spurs - Timmy, Parker, Ginobili
2006 Heat - Wade & Shaq
2005 Spurs - Timmy, Parker, Ginobili
2004 Pistons - Billups, Hamilton, R. Wallace, B. Wallace (all all-star caliber players)
2003 Spurs - Timmy, Parker, Ginobili
2002 Lakers - Shaq & Kobe
2001 Lakers - Shaq & Kobe
2000 Lakers - Shaq & Kobe
1999 Spurs - Timmy, D-Rob
1998 Bulls - MJ, Pip, Rodman
1997 Bulls - MJ, Pip, Rodman
1996 Bulls - MJ, Pip, Rodman
1995 Rockets - Hakeem & Drexler
1994 Rockets - Hakeem & Maxwell (he played like an all-star in the playoffs)
1993 Bulls - MJ & Pip
1992 Bulls - MJ & Pip
1991 Bulls - MJ & Pip
1990 Pistons - Thomas, Dumars, Laimbeer, Rodman

The list doesn't stop there. I could keep going if I wanted to.

Why does it always have to be "LeBron can't do this without him" or "LeBron can't do that"... Like wtf?? Do you not understand that even the GOAT needed an all-star to win a championship? Magic needed 1, Larry needed 1. To name a few... Kobe, Shaq, Thomas, Hakeem, Timmy, Paul Pierce all needed atleast 1. Name a championship team that has won a championship without at least 2 all-star caliber players. You can't. Instead of always looking at LeBron all the time, why don't you look at some of the other all-time greats? And also I just wanted to add in something. NO im not a LeBron fan. I respect him and all. I don't like it when fans like you look at all his negatives and try to make him look bad. Grow a ****ing brain dude.

[SouBeachTalents]

When a player puts up 27-19-10 in the playoffs, in a must win game......that's enough to show that he didn't quit.

I still don't get the quit talk either. Even in that infamous Game 5, he led his team in shot attempts and went to the line 12 times. He played TERRIBLY in that game, but I don't think he quit

[#number6ix#]

Jesus Christ

2014 Spurs - Leonard, Duncan, Ginobili, Parker. All these guys are all-star level players
2013 Heat - LBJ, Wade, and Bosh.
2012 Heat - LBJ, Wade, and Bosh.
2011 Mavs - Dirk had help from Jason Terry (he played like an all-star)
2010 Lakers - Kobe & Pau
2009 Lakers - Kobe & Pau
2008 Celtics - Paul Pierce, KG, Ray Allen
2007 Spurs - Timmy, Parker, Ginobili
2006 Heat - Wade & Shaq
2005 Spurs - Timmy, Parker, Ginobili
2004 Pistons - Billups, Hamilton, R. Wallace, B. Wallace (all all-star caliber players)
2003 Spurs - Timmy, Parker, Ginobili
2002 Lakers - Shaq & Kobe
2001 Lakers - Shaq & Kobe
2000 Lakers - Shaq & Kobe
1999 Spurs - Timmy, D-Rob
1998 Bulls - MJ, Pip, Rodman
1997 Bulls - MJ, Pip, Rodman
1996 Bulls - MJ, Pip, Rodman
1995 Rockets - Hakeem & Drexler
1994 Rockets - Hakeem & Maxwell (he played like an all-star in the playoffs)
1993 Bulls - MJ & Pip
1992 Bulls - MJ & Pip
1991 Bulls - MJ & Pip
1990 Pistons - Thomas, Dumars, Laimbeer, Rodman

The list doesn't stop there. I could keep going if I wanted to.

Why does it always have to be "LeBron can't do this without him" or "LeBron can't do that"... Like wtf?? Do you not understand that even the GOAT needed an all-star to win a championship? Magic needed 1, Larry needed 1. To name a few... Kobe, Shaq, Thomas, Hakeem, Timmy, Paul Pierce all needed atleast 1. Name a championship team that has won a championship without at least 2 all-star caliber players. You can't. Instead of always looking at LeBron all the time, why don't you look at some of the other all-time greats? And also I just wanted to add in something. NO im not a LeBron fan. I respect him and all. I don't like it when fans like you look at all his negatives and try to make him look bad. Grow a ****ing brain dude.

This dat shit that make ya soul burn slow

[Real14]

Let me be more direct with this..

I said could he win without other all stars not other all star. Big difference. Could lebron win without 2 all stars?

[Real14]

This dat shit that make ya soul burn slow

He's wrong I said all stars not all star. Some of those people had only 1 all star or less. 1994 is wrong because maxwell was not an all star that year.

[Smook A.]

He's wrong I said all stars not all star. Some of those people had only 1 all star or less. 1994 is wrong because maxwell was not an all star that year.

None of them had less than 1 all-star. All of them at atleast 1 or more. I can name a shit ton of all-star who won a championship with 2 or more all-star caliber players.

[Real14]

All star caliber type don't count either Smook. Only list Legends who can't win without 2 all stars that actually made the all star team the same year they won a ring.

[Rake2204]

I think it would depend upon the entire composition of the team for which he played. Basketball truly is a team sport, which seems like an obvious statement, but this aspect seems to be continuously overlooked. Michael Jordan is the greatest player I've ever watched play, but he needed help to win too, more than just from Scottie Pippen (John Paxson, Horace Grant, Bobby Hansen, etc.). That's the point of the game. If individuals had so much control over an outcome that the rest of the team never mattered, the game itself would struggle to persevere in its current form.

In short, guys like LeBron James and Michael Jordan will greatly influence any team they ever played on. But, depending upon nearly their entire supporting cast, that influence could mean turning a 20 win team into a 50 win playoff contender or taking a 40 win team and turning them into champions (or anything else in-between).

[Magic 32]

When a player puts up 27-19-10 in the playoffs, in a must win game......that's enough to show that he didn't quit.

Why does Lebron fans ALWAYS mention those numbers without the 41% shooting and 9 turnovers?

Not to mention the shocking lack of interest in the last 5 min. of the game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXq0_IkPsAg&t=0m54s

[Real14]

Why does Lebron fans ALWAYS mention those numbers without the 41% shooting and 9 turnovers?

Not to mention the shocking lack of interest in the last 5 min. of the game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXq0_IkPsAg&t=0m54s

Great points
I noticed this especially in 09 vs magic, and 10 vs celtics. Oh yea 11 vs mavs and 14 vs spurs too

[T_L_P]

Manu averaged 7.5/2/2 in 03.

All-Star caliber???

Parker shot 39% and averaged 3 assists. He definitely wasn't All-Star caliber either. But I guess anyone who can score 15 PPG is an All-Star, right?

[Smook A.]

All star caliber type don't count either Smook. Only list Legends who can't win without 2 all stars that actually made the all star team the same year they won a ring.

Okay.

Duncan, Ginobili, Parker - multiple times
LeBron, Wade, Bosh - 2 times
Pierce, KG, Allen - 1 time
Bird, Parish, McHale - multiple times
Kareem, Magic, Worthy - multiple times
Thomas, Dumars, Rodman - 1 time
Erving, Malone, Toney - 1 time
Hollins, Lucas, Walton - 1 time
Havlicek, Cowens, White - 2 times
Chamberlain, West, Goodrich - 2 times

There's 10.

[Real14]

Okay.

Duncan, Ginobili, Parker - multiple times
LeBron, Wade, Bosh - 2 times
Pierce, KG, Allen - 1 time
Bird, Parish, McHale - multiple times
Kareem, Magic, Worthy - multiple times
Thomas, Dumars, Rodman - 1 time
Erving, Malone, Toney - 1 time
Hollins, Lucas, Walton - 1 time
Havlicek, Cowens, White - 2 times
Chamberlain, West, Goodrich - 2 times

There's 10.

Isiah's Pistons won 2 rings tho
Duncan had one other all star not all stars in 99 and 03. So Duncan don't count.
Did Magic had two all stars on his team in 1980?