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    Default Was child labor ended by capitalism, or by government law?


    Capitalism ended child labor:


    [QUOTE]Child labor laws are frequently cited by proponents of government intervention as proof that businesses cannot be trusted to regulate themselves. In a Wall Street Journal op-ed this week, American President Barack Obama is no exception. He refers to child labor laws as an example of

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    Default Re: Was child labor ended by capitalism, or by government law?

    Here's a part of the "government ended child labor" I cut out because I didn't have space. It's a time line of child labor laws:


    Child Labor Reform and the U.S. Labor Movement

    1832 New England unions condemn child labor
    The New England Association of Farmers, Mechanics and Other Workingmen resolve that

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    Default Re: Was child labor ended by capitalism, or by government law?

    Child labor is still alive and well in many capitalist countries (see Asia). It can only be halted by regulation.

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    Default Re: Was child labor ended by capitalism, or by government law?

    Chil labor is alive and well in America.


    Exhibit A:

    Child Actors



    lol

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    Default Re: Was child labor ended by capitalism, or by government law?

    child labor was ended by capitalism, but dont take it from me, take it from nike, addidas, apple, and virtually every other corporation that makes stuff for america to consume.

    all hail capitalism, liberator of child laborers.


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    Default Re: Was child labor ended by capitalism, or by government law?

    The US ended Child Labor in America, so now companies do it overseas. Companies Don't have moral values when money is involved.

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    Default Re: Was child labor ended by capitalism, or by government law?

    People on this board have a strong habit of nit-picking your wording instead of focusing on the general point you're making or question you're asking. Sigh. I'll try again.

    Was child labor in America ended by capitalism, or by government law?

    Or if you prefer.. if every country in the world outlawed child labor the same way the US has.. what would be the effects of such a law?

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    Default Re: Was child labor ended by capitalism, or by government law?

    Quote Originally Posted by joe
    People on this board have a strong habit of nit-picking your wording instead of focusing on the general point you're making or question you're asking. Sigh. I'll try again.

    Was child labor in America ended by capitalism, or by government law?

    Or if you prefer.. if every country in the world outlawed child labor the same way the US has.. what would be the effects of such a law?
    Do you not realize how that article is falsley equating industrialization with capitalism as if they are interchangeable? There's a huge gap in logic there that you may consider revisiting.

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    Default Re: Was child labor ended by capitalism, or by government law?

    Quote Originally Posted by joe
    People on this board have a strong habit of nit-picking your wording instead of focusing on the general point you're making or question you're asking. Sigh. I'll try again.

    Was child labor in America ended by capitalism, or by government law?

    Or if you prefer.. if every country in the world outlawed child labor the same way the US has.. what would be the effects of such a law?


    American companies still use child labor. They don't do it in America because they can't.

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    Default Re: Was child labor ended by capitalism, or by government law?

    Quote Originally Posted by hammer2010
    Do you not realize how that article is falsley equating industrialization with capitalism as if they are interchangeable? There's a huge gap in logic there that you may consider revisiting.
    That's really a whole other argument. Do you think the industrial revolution and capitalism are not closely intertwined, if not wholly intertwined?

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    Quote Originally Posted by N0Skillz
    American companies still use child labor. They don't do it in America because they can't.
    So what if every country in the entire world had child labor laws exactly like America's? Would that solve the issue of child labor?

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    Default Re: Was child labor ended by capitalism, or by government law?

    Quote Originally Posted by joe
    So what if every country in the entire world had child labor laws exactly like America's? Would that solve the issue of child labor?


    Do all these countries also have the power to enforce these laws? Where these laws are not enforced, child labor ensues.

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    Default Re: Was child labor ended by capitalism, or by government law?

    Quote Originally Posted by N0Skillz
    Do all these countries also have the power to enforce these laws? Where these laws are not enforced, child labor ensues.
    Good point. Okay, instead assume the United States was given the power to do it. Every government in the world gave us the power to open up a child labor administration, and enforce our child labor laws in those countries. Same penalties, same laws, same everything.

    To pay for it, we cut the size of the military budget.

    What would be the effects of this?

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    Default Re: Was child labor ended by capitalism, or by government law?

    Quote Originally Posted by joe
    That's really a whole other argument. Do you think the industrial revolution and capitalism are not closely intertwined, if not wholly intertwined?
    They are somewhat interwined but the author of the article clearly has an agenda when he implies that the terms are interchangeable. I can't begin to explain to you how many things are wrong with this article.

    For instance a better quality of life brought on by the natural progression of technology and innovation is credited to the very loosely defined term 'capitalism'.

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    Default Re: Was child labor ended by capitalism, or by government law?

    Quote Originally Posted by joe
    Good point. Okay, instead assume the United States was given the power to do it. Every government in the world gave us the power to open up a child labor administration, and enforce our child labor laws in those countries. Same penalties, same laws, same everything.

    To pay for it, we cut the size of the military budget.

    What would be the effects of this?

    I don't quite understand your question,but I would assume Population stabilization,inflation of currency, slower growth for third world countries. For the US more jobs, deflation, and some growth.

    I would also think that the any country who already had these laws in place would see a rise in the value of their currency.


    Oh and China would have to import almost all their food.

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