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    Default Re: Bran is officially the least efficient (ie. worst shooter) outside the paint in NBA

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    Here's a different way to statistically demonstrate Steph Curry's vast superiority to Lebron, but bear with me a sec...


    [COLOR="Navy"]Here's a list of all the play-types listed on NBA.com, with the percentile rank that 1.00 PPP equates to in each category (the lower the percentile rank, the more efficient the play - as you can see, 1.00 PPP translates to the 60.4 percentile for "off-screen", and the 77.3 percentile for "isolations", so "off-screen" is more efficient):[/COLOR]


    1) Cut: 18.8 percentile

    2) Roll man on screen-rolls: 49.3 percentile

    3) Off-screen: 60.4 percentile

    4) Spot-ups: 65.3 percentile

    5) Hand-offs: 72.4 percentile

    6) Isolations: 77.3 percentile

    7) Post-ups: 81.7 percentile

    8) Ballhandler on screen-rolls: 91.7 percentile



    HERE'S HOW THIS RELATES TO CURRY AND LEBRON

    The least efficient play shown above (ballhandler on screen rolls) constitutes 20-25% of the offense for top wings like Lebron, with another 20-25% coming from similarly low efficient isolations.. Essentially, the top wing players in the league use low efficiency ball-dominance over 50% of the time.

    Point guards ALSO use the least efficient options - they're the ballhandler on screen rolls for 40% to 60% of their offense.

    But the exception is Steph Curry.. He's the ballhandler on screen-rolls for [COLOR="Navy"]only 24.2%[/COLOR] of his offense and only isolates 10% of the time.. He simply employs the higher efficiency OFF-BALL options more often than his peers.

    He has Jordan-level acumen because he's smart enough to get his offense off-ball - this is more efficient and gives teammates more opportunity/time with the ball to be comfortable and play their game..

    Unlike Lebron, teammates aren't starved of the ball and don't have to subjugate their game to the whim of the #1 option.. Ultimately, Curry is better because his off-ball play makes him more efficient, while giving his team more capacity to reach a higher level of teamwork and superior play.

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    Default Re: Bran is officially the least efficient (ie. worst shooter) outside the paint in NBA

    Some people just can't become great shooters.

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    Default Re: Bran is officially the least efficient (ie. worst shooter) outside the paint in NBA

    Bron is going to age just like Wade. By 32 he will be struggling to put up 20 points per game, by 34 he will be under 20 points per game, by 36 he will be out of the league.

    meanwhile Kobe was still putting up 27 ppg at age 34 and would have likely been putting up 25 ppg at 36 if he never tore his achilles and broke his knee/shoulder. It's a shame Kobe got hurt because the longevity and rings would have put the LeBron argument to rest.

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    Default Re: Bran is officially the least efficient (ie. worst shooter) outside the paint in NBA

    Fun fact: LeBron is currently on pace to have the worst 3P% of anyone who as attempted 200-plus cumulative three-pointers in an entire season. If he takes his customary 300-plus three-poiners in a season and extrapolates his current three-point-shooting percentage, there will be an even broader gap.

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    Default Re: Bran is officially the least efficient (ie. worst shooter) outside the paint in NBA

    27/109 on the year from three

    Kobe 53/207

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    Default Re: Bran is officially the least efficient (ie. worst shooter) outside the paint in NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by buddha
    Bron is going to age just like Wade. By 32 he will be struggling to put up 20 points per game, by 34 he will be under 20 points per game, by 36 he will be out of the league.

    meanwhile Kobe was still putting up 27 ppg at age 34 and would have likely been putting up 25 ppg at 36 if he never tore his achilles and broke his knee/shoulder. It's a shame Kobe got hurt because the longevity and rings would have put the LeBron argument to rest.
    Why dont we compare production by Career Minutes?


    Bron at 42,000 minutes vs Kobe at 42,000 minutes

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    Default Re: Bran is officially the least efficient (ie. worst shooter) outside the paint in NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by dubeta
    Why dont we compare production by Career Minutes?


    Bron at 42,000 minutes vs Kobe at 42,000 minutes


    And lo, the jimmies were rustled.

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    Default Re: Bran is officially the least efficient (ie. worst shooter) outside the paint in NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by sportjames23
    And lo, the jimmies were rustled.
    Nothing quite rustles jimmies like 1-9


    Been talking about it for years and still no valid excuse from MJ stans

    The only thing keeping MJ out of the top 3 imo

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    Default Re: Bran is officially the least efficient (ie. worst shooter) outside the paint in NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by dubeta
    Nothing quite rustles jimmies like 1-9


    Been talking about it for years and still no valid excuse from MJ stans

    The only thing keeping MJ out of the top 3 imo
    Nice deflection bruh, too bad no one even mentioned MJ in this thread

    I'd say that's what you'd call rent free

    rustled jimmies confirmed

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    Default Re: Bran is officially the least efficient (ie. worst shooter) outside the paint in NBA

    Quote Originally Posted by dubeta
    Nothing quite rustles jimmies like 1-9


    Been talking about it for years and still no valid excuse from MJ stans

    The only thing keeping MJ out of the top 3 imo
    For a long time I thought you were just trolling, then I saw the kind of serious posts you make and now I am convinced you really are retarded.

    Please respond with 1/9 or similar.

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    Default Re: Bran is officially the least efficient (ie. worst shooter) outside the paint in NBA

    LBJ=Lebron Bricking Jumpers

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    Default Re: Bran is officially the least efficient (ie. worst shooter) outside the paint in NBA

    What is he putting up this season? Like 26/7/7? I wonder how many other 30 year olds have put that up in the modern era?

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    Default Re: Bran is officially the least efficient (ie. worst shooter) outside the paint in NBA

    It's the beginning of the end. Never seen 30 hit a superstar this hard.

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    Default Re: Bran is officially the least efficient (ie. worst shooter) outside the paint in NBA

    Age, injury, rythm, practice, decision making, just a bad stretch, combination of it all not sure what it is but from 16 feet and beyond he is shooting career worst %, even compared to his rookie season...

    Unfortunately for you / your real agenda, Lebron is still putting up great numbers & playing stellar defense while maintaining #1 best record in the east... he is still the best overall player/talent in the NBA... we shall see in the playoffs/where it matters if that changes or if it still remains the same (Lebron being the best/almost winning FMVP despite losing, Curry getting carried by one of GOAT stacked casts & hence even 3rd Fiddles like Iggy to Championships)
    Last edited by pauk; 12-29-2015 at 09:24 AM.

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    Default Re: Bran is officially the least efficient (ie. worst shooter) outside the paint in NBA

    so people push bron and an hgh connection but ignore any suspicion of kobe using playing enhancements over his last few years


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