If LeBron teams up with Wade, Kobe's legacy can exceed Jordan's

[rmt]

So you'll just conveniently forget that Kobe himself teamed up with the MDE/top 6-8 player for 3 of his rings.

[AlphaWolf24]

So you'll just conveniently forget that Kobe himself teamed up with the MDE/top 6-8 player for 3 of his rings.

No Kobe was already on the Lakers before Shaq came....so U = FAIL on that one..

Kobe was a 17 year old...he rode the bench for 2 years.....at 22 years old he put up a 29PPG 7REB 6AST Championship run (which happens to b e better then Wade's 06' playoff run)

at No point did he go Ring chasing and Join the Spurs .....in fact just the opposite....He booted Shaq outta L.A....and replaced him with a soft Euro and went to 3 straight Finals

Shaq played on 7 50+ win teams without Kobe......how did he do?

[Lucifer]

^Actually that off-season they landed kobe and shaq.

[sagr32]

^Actually that off-season they landed kobe and shaq.

It was the same offseason but Kobe was technically a Laker before Shaq

[rmt]

No Kobe was already on the Lakers before Shaq came....so U = FAIL on that one..

Kobe was a 17 year old...he rode the bench for 2 years.....at 22 years old he put up a 29PPG 7REB 6AST Championship run (which happens to b e better then Wade's 06' playoff run)

at No point did he go Ring chasing and Join the Spurs .....in fact just the opposite....He booted Shaq outta L.A....and replaced him with a soft Euro and went to 3 straight Finals

Shaq played on 7 50+ win teams without Kobe......how did he do?

I was not referring to when Kobe or Shaq joined the Lakers but how ironic (in reference to the Wade/Lebron duo) it is that the OP could think that Kobe's legacy could exceed Jordan's when 3 of Kobe's rings were with Shaq (whereas MJ had no one of Shaq's caliber).

[R.I.P.]

And to think Kobe close to his mid-30's could make this a reality is as ironic as it is iconic. A Wade/Bron tandem would be more dynamic than anything Jordan faced. Two wins against them in the Finals would cement Kobe as the GOAT, IMO.

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[LA_Showtime]

So you'll just conveniently forget that Kobe himself teamed up with the MDE/top 6-8 player for 3 of his rings.

And Shaq teamed up with one of the most potent scorers of all-time, a top 5 player, and arguably the best two way player at his position (at the time, obviously). What's your point?

[AlphaWolf24]

I was not referring to when Kobe or Shaq joined the Lakers but how ironic (in reference to the Wade/Lebron duo) it is that the OP could think that Kobe's legacy could exceed Jordan's when 3 of Kobe's rings were with Shaq (whereas MJ had no one of Shaq's caliber).

Kobe and Shaq with Glenn rice as a 3rd Option ...compared to the Stacked Bull's teams of the 90's???

come on son....you in way over your head on this one.....MJ had one of the greatest all around players/defenders ever and a Top 50 alltime Teammate....not to mention 3 of the Bull's Titles he had the Greatest Defensive player / Rebounder of his generation and the Greatest european player of the 90's on his team...

Plus let's face it...the 90's MJ's Bull's had no real competition....league expansion from 1988 - 1994 watered down Talent....

lakers had Kobe and Shaq....with hardly any decent role players (outside of Fish and Bob)...but trying to say Kobe is Lucky to have played with Shaq?.....naw...other way around.....Shaq played on 7 50+ win teams without Kobe.....never had the postseason success(not even close) like he did with #8....

[AlphaWolf24]

And Shaq teamed up with one of the most potent scorers of all-time, a top 5 player, and arguably the best two way player at his position (at the time, obviously). What's your point?

...and Shaq never sniffed the post season success like he had with #8...despite playing with Penny , Nash , Lebron ,Wade and Pierce....from MDE with Kobe to MRE (Muthaf2cka Ready to eat) without Kobe.....


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[rmt]

Kobe and Shaq with Glenn rice as a 3rd Option ...compared to the Stacked Bull's teams of the 90's???

come on son....you in way over your head on this one.....MJ had one of the greatest all around players/defenders ever and a Top 50 alltime Teammate....not to mention 3 of the Bull's Titles he had the Greatest Defensive player / Rebounder of his generation and the Greatest european player of the 90's on his team...

Plus let's face it...the 90's MJ's Bull's had no real competition....league expansion from 1988 - 1994 watered down Talent....

lakers had Kobe and Shaq....with hardly any decent role players (outside of Fish and Bob)...but trying to say Kobe is Lucky to have played with Shaq?.....naw...other way around.....Shaq played on 7 50+ win teams without Kobe.....never had the postseason success(not even close) like he did with #8....

LOL - decent role players - Horry and Fish only have 12 rings between them. I think you'd be hard pressed to find better or more clutch role players.

Some of you LA fans fail to see the irony of this post. If Kobe will be launched into GOAT status by beating Lebron/Wade, what does that make Dirk who beat Lebron/Wade without the best front line in the league or Duncan who beat Shaq/Kobe on the way to 2 rings?

And it's now #24. What's up with the change - is it some sub-conscious goal that eventually 24 > 23?

[AlphaWolf24]

LOL - decent role players - Horry and Fish only have 12 rings between them. I think you'd be hard pressed to find better or more clutch role players.

Some of you LA fans fail to see the irony of this post. If Kobe will be launched into GOAT status by beating Lebron/Wade, what does that make Dirk who beat Lebron/Wade without the best front line in the league or Duncan who beat Shaq/Kobe on the way to 2 rings?

And it's now #24. What's up with the change - is it some sub-conscious goal that eventually 24 > 23?

Horace Grant , and BJ Armstrong were all allstars and IMO Horace Grant brought far more to the table then Horry ....

Horry while bieng a Clutch Shooter never made the allstar team and never impacted the defense and rebounding like Grant or Rodman...

BJ and Fish are both clutch shooters....BJ was slightly better at getting his own shot...but both had similar roles.


Horry and Fish are good role players...but they are not on the same level as the players MJ had.


@ Jordan stans

[rmt]

Horace Grant , and BJ Armstrong were all allstars and IMO Horace Grant brought far more to the table then Horry ....

Horry while bieng a Clutch Shooter never made the allstar team and never impacted the defense and rebounding like Grant or Rodman...

BJ and Fish are both clutch shooters....BJ was slightly better at getting his own shot...but both had similar roles.


Horry and Fish are good role players...but they are not on the same level as the players MJ had.


@ Jordan stans

Not a Jordan fan at all. But in all my years of watching the NBA (since 1977), there has not been a player to touch Jordan. IMO, he is the GOAT (that I've seen - of course, I didn't see KAJ's early career).

[AlphaWolf24]

Not a Jordan fan at all. But in all my years of watching the NBA (since 1977), there has not been a player to touch Jordan. IMO, he is the GOAT (that I've seen - of course, I didn't see KAJ's early career).

cool story Bro.....