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Re: How many players from the warriors will be starters in the all star game
Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
Well to be fair, one of them probably wouldn't be a HOF without him
every player in nba history with 10 or more all star appearances are in the hall of fame (excluding actives & Shaq, Iverson, Ray and Kidd who are all locks)
Bosh has 10, will have 11 after this year
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Re: How many players from the warriors will be starters in the all star game
Originally Posted by DaOldLion
Lebron played with 2 HOFers for 4 straight years, Curry plays with none
Draymond Green is going to be in the hall of fame. I seriously can't believe people haven't figured this out. Klay is also more than likely going as well.
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Re: How many players from the warriors will be starters in the all star game
Originally Posted by DaOldLion
every player in nba history with 10 or more all star appearances are in the hall of fame (excluding actives & Shaq, Iverson, Ray and Kidd who are all locks)
Bosh has 10, will have 11 after this year
Bosh will probably end up with 12-13, doesn't mean he was even in the same stratosphere as those other players with 10 or more, and if a 10x all star player were to miss the HOF, Bosh's career without LeBron would have a serious argument to do so
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Re: How many players from the warriors will be starters in the all star game
Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
Bosh will probably end up with 12-13, doesn't mean he was even in the same stratosphere as those other players with 10 or more, and if a 10x all star player were to miss the HOF, Bosh's career without LeBron would have a serious argument to do so
Bosh currently has a 98.6% HOF probability, you can argue this all you want but Bosh is a HOFer and Lebron spent 4 years of his prime with 2 HOFers.. thats just a fact and something Curry doesn't currently have the luxury of..
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Re: How many players from the warriors will be starters in the all star game
Originally Posted by DaOldLion
Bosh currently has a 98.6% HOF probability, you can argue this all you want but Bosh is a HOFer and Lebron spent 4 years of his prime with 2 HOFers.. thats just a fact and something Curry doesn't currently have the luxury of..
Lol, I'd never argue he isn't after the Big 3 era, but I seriously doubt he would have been if he never played with LeBron
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Re: How many players from the warriors will be starters in the all star game
Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
Lol, I'd never argue he isn't after the Big 3 era, but I seriously doubt he would have been if he never played with LeBron
You realize making the hall of fame isn't really THAT difficult right? There are guys who were flat out role players in the hall. Plenty of guys who put up big stats on bad teams. Sure winning helps you get in, but it is hardly required.
Vince Carter is a 100% no question lock for the hall and was 5-6 years ago.
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Re: How many players from the warriors will be starters in the all star game
Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
Lol, I'd never argue he isn't after the Big 3 era, but I seriously doubt he would have been if he never played with LeBron
If you think Bosh is only a HOFer because of the 2 rings then you're very misinformed.
Bosh with 2 rings has a 98.6% HOF probability
Pau with 2 rings has a 80% HOF probability
so obviously getting those two rings weren't what made Bosh a HOFer or Pau would be higher than 80% in HOF probability since he won 2 rings also
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Re: How many players from the warriors will be starters in the all star game
Originally Posted by DaOldLion
Lebron played with 2 HOFers for 4 straight years, Curry plays with none
Bosh wasn't a HOF'er when he signed with Miami and wasn't after his first season with Miami.
One could argue he wasn't a HOF'er until after the 2012-13 season.
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Re: How many players from the warriors will be starters in the all star game
Originally Posted by DaOldLion
every player in nba history with 10 or more all star appearances are in the hall of fame (excluding actives & Shaq, Iverson, Ray and Kidd who are all locks)
Bosh has 10, will have 11 after this year
Bosh only had 5 previous all-star selections before signing with Miami for the 2010-11 season. If his career ended after that season, he would not have been HOF material.
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Re: How many players from the warriors will be starters in the all star game
Originally Posted by Hey Yo
Bosh only had 5 previous all-star selections before signing with Miami for the 2010-11 season. If his career ended after that season, he would not have been HOF material.
so then you have to admit that 2x all star (prior to joining LA) Pau Gasol wasn't a HOFer either, so Kobe won his last 2 rings without a HOFer, Curry doesn't have a HOFer... but Lebron still had Wade who is and was a HOFer
I doubt that's the path you want to go down..
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Re: How many players from the warriors will be starters in the all star game
Originally Posted by DaOldLion
so then you have to admit that 2x all star (prior to joining LA) Pau Gasol wasn't a HOFer either, so Kobe won his last 2 rings without a HOFer, Curry doesn't have a HOFer... but Lebron still had Wade who is and was a HOFer
I doubt that's the path you want to go down..
Lol, of course Gasol wasn't a HOF without Kobe
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Re: How many players from the warriors will be starters in the all star game
Originally Posted by dhsilv
Draymond Green is going to be in the hall of fame. I seriously can't believe people haven't figured this out. Klay is also more than likely going as well.
You're clearly exaggerating there...
Klay? Highly doubt he'll make the HoF... We'll see though...
Draymond? Don't know...
I mean, you got a dude like Bobby Jones who's one of the GOAT role-players; one of the greatest, most versatile defenders ever; won a ring; would've won DPOY at some point if it was awarded back then; made 8 straight all-defensive 1st teams; 4x all-star; 1st player to ever win 6th man of the year; always made the Playoffs, always played for top-winning teams; for 6 combined seasons averaged 14/7/3/ with 1.5 steals/blocks per game, on 55% FG and 77% FT; was once 2nd in WS/48 and 9th in PER; he's 13th all-time in FG%; he did his thing in the ABA... And he didn't make the HoF (yet)...
Michael Cooper is another great example... Also one of the best role-players ever; one of the best defenders of all-time; won 5 rings as a good contributor; won DPOY; made 8 all-defensive teams; was the one who "ran" the Lakers' offense when Magic was on the bench; was a very good ball-handler/passer, capable of scoring in double-digits, very athletic, developed into a very good spot-up 3pt-shooter... Don't think he'll ever make the HoF...
My nikka Sidney Moncrief is not in yet... And despite the lack of longevity due to injuries, he still won 2 DPOY's (most for a guard), was a 6x all-star, made 5 all-defensive teams, 5 all-nba teams (once 1st), was once top5 in MVP voting, was at one time the best SG in the league, averaged 21/6/5/1.5 on .592 TS% for 5 combined seasons, led some great, contending teams, did his shit in the Playoffs, almost made the Finals at one point...
****ing shameful that he's not in already though, especially with some of the players already selected
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Re: How many players from the warriors will be starters in the all star game
it's a basketball hof not NBA. pau gasol was one of the biggest international bball stars even pre-Laker boost. all the team USA guys get a boost, so even melo is gonna get in
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Re: How many players from the warriors will be starters in the all star game
Originally Posted by DaOldLion
so then you have to admit that 2x all star (prior to joining LA) Pau Gasol wasn't a HOFer either, so Kobe won his last 2 rings without a HOFer, Curry doesn't have a HOFer... but Lebron still had Wade who is and was a HOFer
I doubt that's the path you want to go down..
Pau wasn't a HOF'er prior, doesn't mean he can't play like one, right?
Kobe's last rings were won with a HOF coach.
No, Curry has no HOF teammates just really good ones.
LeBron did have Wade who was at his best in the 2010-11 season. After that Wade missed almost 60 reg. season games over the next 3 seasons due to injury or "maintenance rest"
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Re: How many players from the warriors will be starters in the all star game
Originally Posted by redhonda76
Steph, Klay, and Dray will get in. They are the champions and undefeated so far. It's a popularity contest and the Warriors has gotten so much media/tv exposure this year. Plus, the Hawks got 4 into all stars last year.
The selection of the reserves is not a popularity contest.
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