Is anybody surprised that bran sits out the day after ESPN says he need more help?

[Donkey4trading]

while flaunting his miami ring the entire time

this guy has to be a terrible teammate, literally nothing is his fault, he plays with 2 HOFersf for 4 straight years in his prime yet the whole time he "needed more help" 6 straight prime years for Lebron hand selecting his teammates and playing with 2 all stars and an all nba caliber player..

at what point do we stop making excuses for somebody who is supposed to be rivaling the greatest players of all time??

This guy gets more excuses made for him than any other all time great in NBA history

[Fire Colangelo]

Literally nothing in the past 12 years of LeBron's career ever pointed him to being a bad team mate.

The fact that guys like Miller, James Jones, Mo Williams, Ray Allen, etc all sign up for less money to play with LeBron shows that he's been nothing but a fantastic teammate.

Plus the fact that him and Wade are still best friends after he left Miami. Dude's obviously pretty chill off the court.

Hate on him for having a shitty jump shot or something, don't hate on him for something that clearly isn't true.

[Donkey4trading]

Literally nothing in the past 12 years of LeBron's career ever pointed him to being a bad team mate.

The fact that guys like Miller, James Jones, Mo Williams, Ray Allen, etc all sign up for less money to play with LeBron shows that he's been nothing but a fantastic teammate.

Plus the fact that him and Wade are still best friends after he left Miami. Dude's obviously pretty chill off the court.

Hate on him for having a shitty jump shot or something, don't hate on him for something that clearly isn't true.

so are you denying the fact that his teammate constantly get ridiculed for every one of his failures for the past +6 years?

how does holding the ball for 22 seconds of the shot clock and then driving to either pass or attempt a lay-up make him a great teammate? His play style works in the regular season but unless he has 2 HOFers beside him it has yet to work in the playoffs,,

I'd love to hear how he makes his teammates better, as every teammate he's ever played with has seen their stats plummet due to Lebron's ball dominance..

Wade and Bosh are leading the team with the best record in the east yet two years ago lebron stans would argue till the cows came home that those two guys were scrubs..

and now he plays with a 19/12 big, a 14/4 pg, has a max contract player as his 6th man and has an all nba point guard returning soon and he still has "no help"

at what point do you get tired of claiming he has no help after 6 straight years of playing with 2 HOFers and then with Kyrie (all nba/all star) and Kevin Love? Ya'll act like every other all time great played with perfect teams while Lebron just plays with scrubs

[JT123]

Literally nothing in the past 12 years of LeBron's career ever pointed him to being a bad team mate.

The fact that guys like Miller, James Jones, Mo Williams, Ray Allen, etc all sign up for less money to play with LeBron shows that he's been nothing but a fantastic teammate.

Plus the fact that him and Wade are still best friends after he left Miami. Dude's obviously pretty chill off the court.

Hate on him for having a shitty jump shot or something, don't hate on him for something that clearly isn't true.

Kobe stans are so angry that players actually enjoy playing with Lebron.

[Donkey4trading]

Kobe stans are so angry that players actually enjoy playing with Lebron.

I don't even care about Kobe so try again loser

[JohnFreeman]

so are you denying the fact that his teammate constantly get ridiculed for every one of his failures for the past +6 years??

how does holding the ball for 22 seconds of the shot clock and then driving to either pass or attempt a lay-up make him a great teammate? His play style works in the regular season but unless he has 2 HOFers beside him it has yet to work in the playoffs,,

I'd love to hear how he makes his teammates better, as every teammate he's ever played with has seen their stats plummet due to Lebron's ball dominance..

Wade and Bosh are leading the team with the best record in the east yet two years ago lebron stans would argue till the cows came home that those two guys were scrubs..

and now he plays with a 19/12 big, a 14/4 pg, has a max contract player as his 6th man and has an all nba point guard returning soon and he still has "no help"

at what point do you get tired of claiming he has no help after 4 straight years of playing with 2 HOFers and then with Kyrie (all nba/all star) and Kevin Love? Ya'll act like every other all time great played with perfect teams while Lebron just plays with scrubs

Yeah they were great against the Warriors

[JT123]

I don't even care about Kobe so try again loser

You're still pissed because players take pay cuts to play with the King and praise him for his unselfishness.

[Donkey4trading]

Yeah they were great against the Warriors

Not just talking about last years finals hear buddy.. there were 4 straight years before that where Lebron was playing with 2 HOFers during his prime..


and I thought that Lebron made his teammates better?? Why did Mozgoff go off for 28/10 in game 4 in the finals and then play 9 minutes the next game?? Lebron wasn't able to be effective with Mozgoff and TT in the paint at the same time so the only advantage the Cavs had against he Warriors (their size) was neutralized because Lebron needed more spacing than the combo of TT and Moz provided.. he neutered his 2nd best player because he isn't able to play with a true low post player.

and missing 60% of your shots while taking 34 shots per game and losing in 6 while the last 2/3 of the game weren't even competitive isn't impressive

yall hold your boy to the lowest standards ever for an all time great.. do you realize how many players would kill to play with Wade/Kyire/Bosh/Love for 6 straight years of their prime??

[ShawkFactory]

"Yea bitch, see how these fvckers do without me"

[Donkey4trading]

You're still pissed because players take pay cuts to play with the King and praise him for his unselfishness.

great point, TT took a massive pay cut this year

oh wait

[JT123]

great point, TT took a massive pay cut this year

oh wait

Your trying way too hard dude.

[Donkey4trading]

Your trying way too hard dude.

you'renot trying hard enough

bringing up pay cuts when his teammate just had the most infamous hold out of the entire off season

[JohnFreeman]

you'renot trying hard enough

bringing up pay cuts when his teammate just had the most infamous hold out of the entire off season

But TT wanted $94 million 5 years, and they signed him for less

[Fire Colangelo]

so are you denying the fact that his teammate constantly get ridiculed for every one of his failures for the past +6 years?

how does holding the ball for 22 seconds of the shot clock and then driving to either pass or attempt a lay-up make him a great teammate? His play style works in the regular season but unless he has 2 HOFers beside him it has yet to work in the playoffs,,

I'd love to hear how he makes his teammates better, as every teammate he's ever played with has seen their stats plummet due to Lebron's ball dominance..

Wade and Bosh are leading the team with the best record in the east yet two years ago lebron stans would argue till the cows came home that those two guys were scrubs..

and now he plays with a 19/12 big, a 14/4 pg, has a max contract player as his 6th man and has an all nba point guard returning soon and he still has "no help"

at what point do you get tired of claiming he has no help after 6 straight years of playing with 2 HOFers and then with Kyrie (all nba/all star) and Kevin Love? Ya'll act like every other all time great played with perfect teams while Lebron just plays with scrubs

Other than 2011 finals, when has LeBron played subpar?

This is such a stupid argument, obviously stats are going to plummet because there's only one basketball and only so many possessions per game. Look at the Olympics teams for example, nobody averages 30 and everybody's numbers are lower. Does that mean they became worse players?

Mo Williams had his only all star selection with LeBron, and still came back to play with LeBron even after LeBron's "betrayal". What does that say about LeBron? What about Ray Allen that was on a rival team that LeBron stomped just the year before? Again, what about Mike Miller and James Jones, who seems to follow LeBron everywhere he goes if he's such a shitty teammate?

You do realize that this year's Heat team is completely different from LeBron's Heat teams right? They've added Whiteside, Dragic, Deng, Winslow, McRoberts, Green, etc. Why not look at last year's Heat team when they replaced LeBron with a serviceable player in Luol Deng?

Not to mention only 17 games have been played, and they've been completely healthy while Cleveland's been missing Kyrie.

I don't care what LeBron stans argue, because I'm not one of them. I'm just here to point out the stupidity of your thread, and your shitty argument.

This max contract 19/12 big just layed a huge egg today while LeBron was out, and everyone and their grandmothers know that TT is not worth a max contract.

But hey, Kyrie and Love sure averaged huge numbers in the finals against the Warriors last year. Lets continue to blame everything on LeBron just because. Need I mention how LeBron literally single handedly got TT and Shumpert paid? Or how he literally took scrubs from New York and turned them into serviceable players?

But yeah, he's a bad teammate. Nobody wants to play with him.

Like I said, hate on him for his shitty jumpshot or cramps or some shit. Don't hate on something that he's actually good at.

[JohnFreeman]

Other than 2011 finals, when has LeBron played subpar?

This is such a stupid argument, obviously stats are going to plummet because there's only one basketball and only so many possessions per game. Look at the Olympics teams for example, nobody averages 30 and everybody's numbers are lower. Does that mean they became worse players?

Mo Williams had his only all star selection with LeBron, and still came back to play with LeBron even after LeBron's "betrayal". What does that say about LeBron? What about Ray Allen that was on a rival team that LeBron stomped just the year before? Again, what about Mike Miller and James Jones, who seems to follow LeBron everywhere he goes if he's such a shitty teammate?

You do realize that this year's Heat team is completely different from LeBron's Heat teams right? They've added Whiteside, Dragic, Deng, Winslow, McRoberts, Green, etc. Why not look at last year's Heat team when they replaced LeBron with a serviceable player in Luol Deng?

Not to mention only 17 games have been played, and they've been completely healthy while Cleveland's been missing Kyrie.

I don't care what LeBron stans argue, because I'm not one of them. I'm just here to point out the stupidity of your thread, and your shitty argument.

This max contract 19/12 big just layed a huge egg today while LeBron was out, and everyone and their grandmothers know that TT is not worth a max contract.

But hey, Kyrie and Love sure averaged huge numbers in the finals against the Warriors last year. Lets continue to blame everything on LeBron just because. Need I mention how LeBron literally single handedly got TT and Shumpert paid? Or how he literally took scrubs from New York and turned them into serviceable players?

But yeah, he's a bad teammate. Nobody wants to play with him.

Like I said, hate on him for his shitty jumpshot or cramps or some shit. Don't hate on something that he's actually good at.

Well that's /thread I think