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Re: objectively speaking, did kobe really.....
Originally Posted by Smoke117
No he didn't. He doesn't even have the best peak of a shooting guard of his own era...Wade does. Whether single year, Wade's 2009 is > than any of Kobe's, and for a 2-3 year period he was better than Kobe ever was in 2009-2011.
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Re: objectively speaking, did kobe really.....
Originally Posted by Smoke117
No he didn't. He doesn't even have the best peak of a shooting guard of his own era...Wade does. Whether single year, Wade's 2009 is > than any of Kobe's, and for a 2-3 year period he was better than Kobe ever was in 2009-2011.
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NBA rookie of the year
Re: objectively speaking, did kobe really.....
Originally Posted by Smoke117
No he didn't. He doesn't even have the best peak of a shooting guard of his own era...Wade does. Whether single year, Wade's 2009 is > than any of Kobe's, and for a 2-3 year period he was better than Kobe ever was in 2009-2011.
Wade must be the most irrelevant player on the planet if he had such a GOAT peak and the only people who give a shit are his stans. Damn shame.
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Gambling expert
Re: objectively speaking, did kobe really.....
Originally Posted by BigNBAfan
like the size of lebrons d!ck
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NBA Legend
Re: objectively speaking, did kobe really.....
Top 10-15 peak IMO
Originally Posted by Smoke117
No he didn't. He doesn't even have the best peak of a shooting guard of his own era...Wade does. Whether single year, Wade's 2009 is > than any of Kobe's, and for a 2-3 year period he was better than Kobe ever was in 2009-2011.
I used to think that as well, until I put proper perspective on his postseason run. First round exit while playing below his standards isn't better than Kobe's 2008 run where he led the Lakers pre Pau to the #1 seed in the West, and subsequently the Finals while beating the defending champion Spurs. In the playoffs Kobe also put up ~30/6/6 on 58%TS with elite defense - so if we're talking about results and actual play on the court, no, Wade's 2009 season isn't greater than "any" of Kobe's.
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Re: objectively speaking, did kobe really.....
Originally Posted by kuniva_dAMiGhTy
I used to think that as well, until I put proper perspective on his postseason run. First round exit while playing below his standards isn't better than Kobe's 2008 run where he led the Lakers pre Pau to the #1 seed in the West, and subsequently the Finals while beating the defending champion Spurs. In the playoffs Kobe also put up ~30/6/6 on 58%TS with elite defense - so if we're talking about results and actual play on the court, no, Wade's 2009 season isn't greater than "any" of Kobe's.
2006 Wade? 2011 Wade?
I'm not 100% sure but I don't think Kobe the Lakers were holding the #1 seed the whole year but they were a Top 4 Seed for sure.
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Laker Nation
Re: objectively speaking, did kobe really.....
Originally Posted by Wade's Rings
2006 Wade? 2011 Wade?
I'm not 100% sure but I don't think Kobe the Lakers were holding the #1 seed the whole year but they were a Top 4 Seed for sure.
they were 30-16 before Pau got to L.A.
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.GOAT Bench Player.
Re: objectively speaking, did kobe really.....
Originally Posted by BigNBAfan
like the size of lebrons d!ck
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NBA Legend
Re: objectively speaking, did kobe really.....
Originally Posted by Wade's Rings
2006 Wade? 2011 Wade?
Huh? I was addressing his "2009 > any Kobe year" comment.
I'm not 100% sure but I don't think Kobe the Lakers were holding the #1 seed the whole year but they were a Top 4 Seed for sure.
Atop the Western Conference prior to Pau being traded. Look it up.
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National High School Star
Re: objectively speaking, did kobe really.....
no, and that is part of the reason why he is fringe top 10 all time, if not outside of the top 10
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GOAT
Re: objectively speaking, did kobe really.....
Originally Posted by BigNBAfan
like the size of lebrons d!ck
dubeta takin L's all day today. I mean, even more than usual.
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Re: objectively speaking, did kobe really.....
Originally Posted by Smoke117
No he didn't. He doesn't even have the best peak of a shooting guard of his own era...Wade does. Whether single year, Wade's 2009 is > than any of Kobe's, and for a 2-3 year period he was better than Kobe ever was in 2009-2011.
Wade wasn't even better in 2009.
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Re: objectively speaking, did kobe really.....
Are we adjusting for conferences and/or competition? If so, I don't think there was a single season where Wade was better. Even 21 year old Kobe would drop 40-50 points on powerhouse teams like the Spurs and Kings regularly. Then you have the 2006 Kobe who dropped 62 in three quarters on the same Mavs team Wade would go on to beat in the finals.
Same applies to Lebron. Adjust for conferences and competition, and his so-called "peak" diminishes to empty stats against weak competition.
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Re: objectively speaking, did kobe really.....
Originally Posted by kuniva_dAMiGhTy
Huh? I was addressing his "2009 > any Kobe year" comment.
Oh ok.
Atop the Western Conference prior to Pau being traded. Look it up.
All I found is that they were 29-16 which I'm not even sure is the accurate record but I do think help is a factor but I don't want to bash Kobe.
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Re: objectively speaking, did kobe really.....
Originally Posted by Jacks3
Wade wasn't even better in 2009.
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