Name a legit good player Dirk has ever played with in Dallas.

[D3vIrGiNiz3r]

I hear all this noise about how Dirks teams have been so deep over the years, but have they really?

PROVE IT. Name a single good player Dirk has played with during his career in Dallas. Don't say Nash because we all know Nash wasn't good in Dallas and didn't actually start trying until he got his own team.

For all the crap people talk about Dirk going out in the first round as a high seed a few times, they fail to realize Dirk has never had any help. His best player was pretty much Josh Howard WHO WAS A SECOND ROUND PICK and an overall awful person and teammate.

Get Dirk a Manu and Parker. Get Dirk a Ray Allen and Paul Pierce. Get Dirk a Gasol and Odom. Everyone talks about how great LeBron is but fail to realize he hasn't won anything, but he'll probably win a ring this year. Why? Because they brought Jamison over and he finally got some help!

Nobody can do it by themselves. The funny thing is, DIRK ALMOST DID yet all he does is get crapped on.

Next time you want to bash Dirk, ask yourself, 'who has he really played with?' and I bet you'll change your mind and start to appreciate him.

[6thManOfTheYear]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...705030GSW.html

[D3vIrGiNiz3r]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...705030GSW.html

Look at the team he had to carry.

[ReturnofJPR]

Who cares? Dirk is supposed to be a Wade, Bron, or Melo.

Dirk is a choker. Darn white guys...

[imnew09]

Look at the team he had to carry.

that team got first seeded in the west...
c-mon man
watch some basketballs.

[D3vIrGiNiz3r]

that team got first seeded in the west...
c-mon man
watch some basketballs.

They got the first seed because of Dirk. That team didn't help them win any regular season games. Once the playoffs hit and the defense focused on Dirk forcing his team to beat them and they couldn't because they're garbage. Look what Devin Harris did in Jersey. Almost broke the record for worst team ever and that was Dirk's best player.

[Poodle]

nash was great in dallas imo. he just wasn't dominating the ball like he is with the sun's. he's probably the best player dirk has ever played with, while i'd say dirks current surrounding cast is highly overrated in a lot of different ways.

[ReturnofJPR]

nash was great in dallas imo. he just wasn't dominating the ball like he is with the sun's. he's probably the best player dirk has ever played with, while i'd say dirks current surrounding cast is highly overrated in a lot of different ways.

Well, that's because Nash is a system PG. He thrives in PHX but wouldn't thrive anywhere else (to the level that he is thriving now) unless he played in NY or Golden State.

[phoenix18]

I feel you, but Dirk is one of the worst examples to use this argument on.

Dirk had a lot of good teammates.

Devin Harris and Jason Kidd.

Terry and Howard.

Stackhouse and Marion.

Jamison and Walker.

Butler and Haywood.

Early years: All-Star Guard Michael Finley.

He's also had solid benches as well. I am not saying that most of his teams were stacked, but he had quality teams most of the time. Three good coaches: Nellie,Johnson and R.C.

He has a very active owner who is dedicated to winning and willing to spend money to do so.

Other players of his generation consistently had way less but are looked upon less favorably.

[emsteez forreal]

so you're saying that his teams weren't good, yet he's had a few top 3-seeded teams?

[kurple]

Dallas had the deepest team in the league this year.

Kidd, Terry, Butler, Marion, Haywood, Damp + Barea and Roddy.

Everyone was going on and on about how the Mavs were better on paper than the Lakers.

Dallas got outcoached, and Dirk would be much better as a second option.

[Poodle]

Well, that's because Nash is a system PG. He thrives in PHX but wouldn't thrive anywhere else (to the level that he is thriving now) unless he played in NY or Golden State.

anyone will thrive that much more when they become the complete basis of a run and gun offense. its like ginobli in the past vs ginobli with the keys, HUGE difference.

nash can excel anywhere. it just took him going to a team where he became the catalyst for everything, more than giving the ball to other stars for iso's, and playing more halfcourt'sh.

[D3vIrGiNiz3r]

I feel you, but Dirk is one of the worst examples to use this argument on.

Dirk had a lot of good teammates.

Devin Harris and Jason Kidd.

Terry and Howard.

Stackhouse and Marion.

Jamison and Walker.

Butler and Haywood.

Early years: All-Star Guard Michael Finley.

He's also had solid benches as well. I am not saying that most of his teams were stacked, but he had quality teams most of the time. Three good coaches: Nellie,Johnson and R.C.

He has a very active owner who is dedicated to winning and willing to spend money to do so.

Other players of his generation consistently had way less but are looked upon less favorably.

This is my point. None of these guys are good and I feel bad for anyone who thinks they are. lol@all star guard Michael Finley.

[NY-Knicks]

thats correct, he didnt have a legit 2nd option in his prime.
But, he has had GREAT supporting casts. He had many players on his team who were able to step up and score 20 a night or be able to contribute in other ways. For instance guys like Steve Nash, Jason Terry, Josh Howard and Michael Finley.

He has had supporting casts, they were up 2-0 against a Heat team who in my opinion were less talented (old veterans like Walker, Payton, Zo, Williams) and relied a lot on DWade. Dirk 'carried' a team with Jason Terry, Josh Howard, Devin Harris and Jerry Stackhouse to the finals.

[phoenix18]

This is my point. None of these guys are good and I feel bad for anyone who thinks they are. lol@all star guard Michael Finley.

Finley was a legit baller. Kidd is not good? Harris is not good? Howard?Caron?

Come on you're undermining your argument right now.