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    Default Re: Is PER the single most telling statistic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pointguard
    Funny, Hollinger was running the stat by me everyday when he was creating it - I worked in the central library in manhattan at the time and it was the only place you could get the best boxscores. He was very thorough and more excited about this stat than any other he created. I told him then that it betrayed point guards and defensive players a bit and he said thinking/decision making isn't measurable in real life that much either. Deflections and denials aren't currently captured either.

    It is the best stat for productive players and guys who fill up the stat sheet because it captures more stats than any other and has a measure for other factors of play as well. It is the most comprehensive, which is what he had in mind when he created it.
    i bet now he wont even return your texts

    tossed u aside like u mo williams

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    Quote Originally Posted by STATUTORY
    i bet now he wont even return your texts

    tossed u aside like u mo williams
    Our conversations were like Dmavs' and mine are now.

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    Default Re: Is PER the single most telling statistic?

    According to PER Brandan Wright was the 13th best player last year.

    Good stat

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    Default Re: Is PER the single most telling statistic?

    Question for stat guys: Is there a correlation between PER and Winning? If you added up the PER score for every player on every team, would the teams with the highest collective PER scores be at the top of the standings?

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    Default Re: Is PER the single most telling statistic?

    admit it everyone, Hollinger is leaving our dreams.

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    Default Re: Is PER the single most telling statistic?

    Rings.

    Finals appearances.

    Wins.

    Better than any stat, especially when combined with stats.

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    Default Re: Is PER the single most telling statistic?

    D-Wade has a higher peak PER than Kareem.

    T-Mac's highest PER is better than any of Bird's.

    Kobe's best PER is above Magic's best.

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    Definitely

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    Default Re: Is PER the single most telling statistic?

    It is the single most telling stat.

    I can tell that anyone who uses it so definitively is dumb.

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    Default Re: Is PER the single most telling statistic?

    Hollinger is a borderline retard. How anyone takes any of this work seriously is beyond me. The PER formula is Jersey Number + Points scored / shoe size + assists per game.

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    Default Re: Is PER the single most telling statistic?

    It's the single WORST stat right now. It relies too much on a players scoring and their efficiency to get it's rating. It takes into account nothing defensively and very little as far as rebounds and assist.

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    Default Re: Is PER the single most telling statistic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smoke117
    It's the single WORST stat right now. It relies too much on a players scoring and their efficiency to get it's rating. It takes into account nothing defensively and very little as far as rebounds and assist.
    True. Take an elite (efficient) scorer who does nothing else, and his PER is still going to be pretty high. Take prime Dennis Rodman and his PER is only average.

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    Default Re: Is PER the single most telling statistic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Psileas
    True. Take an elite (efficient) scorer who does nothing else, and his PER is still going to be pretty high. Take prime Dennis Rodman and his PER is only average.
    Jason Kidd has had a per over 20 only twice...EVER. He's one of the greatest players of all time. It's the worst statistic ever devised.

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    Default Re: Is PER the single most telling statistic?

    Quote Originally Posted by IncarceratedBob
    Hollinger is a borderline retard. How anyone takes any of this work seriously is beyond me. The PER formula is Jersey Number + Points scored / shoe size + assists per game.
    Shoe size X's .44. Don't be lazy, write out the whole formula. Bob always trying to take the shortcut.

    Yeah Psilas/Smoke117, a bright player that makes all the right decisions or flip a franchise ala Bird/Magic/Kidd won't get their just due with it.

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