Top 10 All time Clutch Players

[NZStreetBaller]

ray allen definately deserves to be on the list although i wouldnt call him the best clutch performer i would call him the best clutch shooter, which in my opinion earns him a spot as a clutch performer on the top 10 list.

[Hoopz2332]

When it comes to the NBA Finals, it's not even close. Career Finals statistics below

Jordan: 34, 6, 6, 48%
LeBron: 24, 9, 6, 45%
Kobe: 25, 6, 5, 42%

lebron's finals numbers are still better than Kobe's


[QUOTE=Hoopz2332]I keep hearing/reading about this Kobe "The Killer" myth when people make comparisons between the similarities and differences between him, Jordan and lebron but it's flatout BS! The numbers just don't back up Kobe's rep. Let's take a look at some numbers..

Playoff Numbers


KObe

25.6 ppg 45 FG% on 21 FGA

5 rbs


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lebron

28.1 ppg 47 FG% on 20 FGa

9 rbs

7 ast


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Jordan

33.4 ppg 49 FG% on 25 FGA

6 rbs

6 ast







Clutch numbers in the playoffs

Playoff clutch time

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http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/pos...ch-think-again


I thought KObe was a "killer"?



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Playoff elimination games


Michael Jordan Elimination Game Averages:

31.3 PPG,

7.9 RPG,

7.0 APG,

2.1 SPG,

1.0 BPG,

4.2 TOPG,

45.8 FG%,

33.3 3P%,

75.7 FT%


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LeBron James Elimination Game Averages:

31.9 PPG,


10.1 RPG,

6.5 APG,


1.4 SPG,

.6 BPG,

4.5 TOPG,

46.5 FG%,

31.4 3P%,

73.8 FT%

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Kobe Bryant Elimination Game Averages:

22.3 PPG,

5.6 RPG,

3.7 APG,

1.2 SPG,

.6 BPG,

3.0 TOPG,

41.4 FG%,

27.5 3P%,

77.9 FT%


Where is KObe "the killer" at in elimination games?


Straight up game 7's or 5's

Michael Jordan G7 Stats:

36.8 PPG, 7.2 RPG, 6.6 APG, 1.2 SPG, 1.0 BPG, 4.0 TOPG, 48.9 FG%, 33.3 FG%, 79.7 FT%

-W/out Game 5

[Deuce Bigalow]

What about Wilt Chamberlain though? He was known for his clutchness.

[Theoo]

What about Wilt Chamberlain though? He was known for his clutchness.

he haved some very clutch jumpballtips

[Mr. Jabbar]

What about Wilt Chamberlain though? He was known for his clutchness.

[LAZERUSS]

What about Wilt Chamberlain though? He was known for his clutchness.

Wilt played in 11 "at-the-limit" playoff games:

Team: 6-5
29.9 ppg
27.3 rpg
.581 FG%
Outscored his opposing starting center in all 11
Outrebounded his opposing starting center, 10-0-1



Wilt played in 23 "must-win" playoff games:

12-11 W-L record

31.1 ppg (Regular season career average was 30.1 ppg)
26.1 rpg (Regular season career average was 22.9 rpg)
3.4 apg (Regular season career average was 4.4 apg)
.540 FG% (Regular season career average was .540 FG%)


3 games of 50+ points (The ONLY 50+ "must-win" games by a GOAT candidate in NBA history)

5 games of 40+ points (including a Finals 40+ elimination game)

13 games of 30+ points

6 games of 30+ rebounds

20 games of 20+ rebounds

BTW, Wilt's "must-win" ppg average ranks THIRD all-time, and just behind Lebron's 31.9 ppg, and MJ's, 31.3 ppg.



Wilt played in 37 "elimination" games (where either his team, or the opposing team faced elimination):

His team's went 24-13 in elimination games:

29.5 ppg,
26.1 rpg,
4.2 apg
.546 FG%



How about Wilt vs. Russell in their 4 game seven's?

Russell: 13.0 ppg, 24.5 rpg, .465 FG%
Wilt: 21.0 ppg, 28.8 rpg, .638 FG%

How about Wilt vs Russell in their 15 "elimination games"?

Russell: 14.6 ppg, 24.9 rpg, .442 FG%
Wilt: 27.5 ppg, 27.7 rpg, .505 FG%

Oh, and Wilt outscored Russell by a 14-1 margin, and outrebounded Russell by a 9-5-1 margin.




Arguably the greatest "clutch" playoff performer of all-time.

[ImKobe]

T-Mac

[stalkerforlife]

1. Jordan
2. Kobe

Kobe has the most game winners of all time, but MJ was more efficient.

[SexSymbol]

Wilt played in 11 "at-the-limit" playoff games:

Team: 6-5
29.9 ppg
27.3 rpg
.581 FG%
Outscored his opposing starting center in all 11
Outrebounded his opposing starting center, 10-0-1



Wilt played in 23 "must-win" playoff games:

12-11 W-L record

31.1 ppg (Regular season career average was 30.1 ppg)
26.1 rpg (Regular season career average was 22.9 rpg)
3.4 apg (Regular season career average was 4.4 apg)
.540 FG% (Regular season career average was .540 FG%)


3 games of 50+ points

5 games of 40+ points (including a Finals 40+ elimination game)

13 games of 30+ points

6 games of 30+ rebounds

20 games of 20+ rebounds

BTW, Wilt's "must-win" ppg average ranks THIRD all-time, and just behind Lebron's 31.9 ppg, and MJ's, 31.3 ppg.



Wilt played in 37 "elimination" games (where either his team, or the opposing team faced elimination):

His team's went 24-13 in elimination games:

29.5 ppg,
26.1 rpg,
4.2 apg
.546 FG%



How about Wilt vs. Russell in their 4 game seven's?

Russell: 13.0 ppg, 24.5 rpg, .465 FG%
Wilt: 21.0 ppg, 28.8 rpg, .638 FG%

How about Wilt vs Russell in their 15 "elimination games"?

Russell: 14.6 ppg, 24.9 rpg, .442 FG%
Wilt: 27.5 ppg, 27.7 rpg, .505 FG%

Oh, and Wilt outscored Russell by a 14-1 margin, and outrebounded Russell by a 9-5-1 margin.




Arguably the greatest "clutch" playoff performer of all-time.

Nobody that hasn't won half of the finals they've played in deserves to be in the conversation for top 25 all-time.

1.MJ
2.Kobe
3.Bird
4.Jones
5.Dirk
6.Russell
7.Allen
8.Fisher
9.Hakeem
10.Horry

[Round Mound]

No Stockton?

What About Barkley and Duncan?

[LAZERUSS]

Nobody that hasn't won half of the finals they've played in deserves to be in the conversation for top 25 all-time.

1.MJ
2.Kobe
3.Bird
4.Jones
5.Dirk
6.Russell
7.Allen
8.Fisher
9.Hakeem
10.Horry

Kobe...CARRIED by Shaq in THREE of his Finals, and needed Ron Artest to win a game seven in another. Kobe is without a doubt, the worst Finals performer by a "GOAT" candidate in NBA history.

Bird? Beaten by Magic 2-1 (and needed the Lakers to HAND them TWO games in the '84 Finals to get that one series win.) Oh, and he wasn't even Boston's best player in one of his team's three Finals wins.

Hakeem? THREE Finals in 15 playoff seasons (and 18 overall.) Beaten in the FIRST ROUND in EIGHT of them (and ROUTED in FIVE of those.)

Only MJ, Russell, Jones, and Dirk should be on that laughable list. And Russell was either outplayed, or downright dominated by Wilt in all eight of their post-season H2H series.

[LAZERUSS]

Kobe?



Arguably the WORST Finals' performer of a Top-10 player all-time:

99-00
Regular season 22.5 ppg .468 FG%
Finals 15.6 ppg .367 FG%
Last Game of Series .296 FG%

00-01
Regular season 28.5 ppg .464 FG%
Finals 24.6 ppg .415 FG%
Last Game of Series .389 FG%

01-02
Regular season 25.2 ppg .469
Finals 26.8 ppg .514 FG%
Last Game of Series .438 FG%

03-04
Regular season 24.0 ppg .438 FG%
Finals 22.6 ppg .381 FG%
Last Game of Series .333 FG%

07-08
Regular season 28.3 ppg .459 FG%
Finals 25.7 ppg .405 FG%
Last Game of Series .318 FG%

08-09
Regular season 26.8 ppg .467 FG%
Finals 32.4 ppg .430 FG%
Last Game of Series .435 FG%

09-10
Regular season 27.0 ppg .456 FG%
Finals 28.6 ppg .405 FG%
Last Game of Series .250 FG%


Other noteables:


97-98
Swept by Utah 4-0.
Kobe averages 10.0 ppg on a .367 FG%

98-99
Swept by San Antonio 4-0
Last game of the series : Kobe 16 points on a .438 FG%

02-03
Lose to Spurs in WCF's, 4-2.
Last game loss by a score of 110-82 (Kobe with 20 points in a season in which he averaged 30 ppg)

03-04 Finals
Heavily favored Lakers lose to Pistons, 4-1.
In the clinching game five loss Kobe shoots .333 in a 100-87 loss (and LA was down 23 going into 4th quarter)

04-05
Team goes 34-48 and misses playoffs

05-06
Regular season 35.4 ppg .450
Playoffs 27.9 ppg .497
Last game (7) 24 points in a 121-90 loss (after blowing a 3-1 series lead)

06-07
Team goes 42-40
Loses in first round to Suns, 4-1.
Last game of that series, Kobe shoots .394 from the floor

07-08
Lakers are blown out by Celts in Finals.
In game four the Lakers blow a 23 point lead, and lose, in a game in which Kobe shot .316 from the field.
In the clinching game six loss, the Lakers lose by a Finals record margin of 131-92. Kobe shoots .318 from the floor.

10-11
Lakers with HCA are swept by the Mavs, 4-0.
In the clinching game four loss, LA loses 122-86. Kobe shoots .389 from the field.

[SexSymbol]

Kobe...CARRIED by Shaq in THREE of his Finals, and needed Ron Artest to win a game seven in another. Kobe is without a doubt, the worst Finals performer by a "GOAT" candidate in NBA history.

Bird? Beaten by Magic 2-1 (and needed the Lakers to HAND them TWO games in the '84 Finals to get that one series win.) Oh, and he wasn't even Boston's best player in one of his team's three Finals wins.

Hakeem? THREE Finals in 15 playoff seasons (and 18 overall.) Beaten in the FIRST ROUND in EIGHT of them (and ROUTED in FIVE of those.)

Only MJ, Russell, Jones, and Dirk should be on that laughable list. And Russell was either outplayed, or downright dominated by Wilt in all eight of their post-season H2H series.

I know you love to *********e to old dead guys, but you have to be objective for a second.
I know all of the shit you pointed out, but it's irrelevant.
Kobe was a king of clutch, clinching division titles on miracle buzzer-beaters, bringing the team from down 15 in the 4th Q, owning SA and SAC multiple times in 4th quarters. Shaq was miserable in the clutch pretty much every game it was up to Kobe to step up. And step up he did.

Hakeem had one of the best runs ever in 94, one Wilt could only dream of having.

Bird bailed out that team that didn't underperform only two years he was there, many many times.

You should go back and watch the games, I know you hate this strange activity, but try it out. Btw, how was being gay in the 60s for you? Nice?

[LAZERUSS]

I know you love to *********e to old dead guys, but you have to be objective for a second.
I know all of the shit you pointed out, but it's irrelevant.
Kobe was a king of clutch, clinching division titles on miracle buzzer-beaters, bringing the team from down 15 in the 4th Q, owning SA and SAC multiple times in 4th quarters. Shaq was miserable in the clutch pretty much every game it was up to Kobe to step up. And step up he did.

Hakeem had one of the best runs ever in 94, one Wilt could only dream of having.

Bird bailed out that team that didn't underperform only two years he was there, many many times.

You should go back and watch the games, I know you hate this strange activity, but try it out. Btw, how was being gay in the 60s for you? Nice?

Shaq was miserable in the clutch?

Maybe YOU should watch those "three-peat" Finals again and get back to me.

Hakeem's '94 run was nowhere near as dominant as Wilt's '67 run. Hell, he didn't even face a legitimate starting center in his first three playoff series. Furthermore, his team barly eked out a game seven in the Finals, in a game in which he shot 40% from the field (and against an under-dog Knicks team that outscored the Rockets in that series.)

Bird? How about this:

Thanks to Colts18 BTW...

Just look at Bird's long list of playoff failures while Dirk improves his play in the postseason:

1980- Averaged a .511 TS% in the postseason. In game 5 vs. the Sixers, he shot poorly, 5-19 with just 12 points, as the Celtics lost the game. His man (Dr. J) averaged 25 PPG in this series. His team loses in 5 games despite having HCA and winning 61 games. Had a 18.3 PER in the postseason

1981- Has a .532 TS% in the postseason. He had a bad finals where he averaged just 15 PPG on .419 shooting and .460 TS%.

1982- PPG average dropped from 22.9 PPG to 17.8 PPG. He has an embarrassing .474 TS% in the playoffs. He averaged a pedestrian 18.3 PPG against the Sixers. Averages 17 PPG in the final 2 games of the series. The Celtics lose again with HCA. The Celtics won 63 games and had the #1 SRS in the league. Has a 17.9 PER in the postseason.

1983- The Celtics get swept by the Bucks. The Celtics win 56 games and had the #2 SRS in the league and lose again with HCA. Bird plays awful again. .478 TS%. His PPG average drops 2 PPG in the playoffs. Bird missed a game in the series but that game happened to be the closest one (Celtics lose by 4). In the 3 other games, the Celtics lose by 14.3 PPG with Bird on the court.

1984- Great playoffs. Averaged 27-14-4 in the Finals and had a .607 TS% in the playoffs. First great playoff of his career. Celtics win the title over the Lakers.

1985- Celtics make the finals, but Bird's numbers drop in the playoffs. His PPG drops by 2.8 PPG, Reb by 1.2 Reb, and AST by 0.7 AST. Had an average .536 TS% in the postseason. Bird plays even worse in the finals. His PPG dropped 4.9 PPG, his Reb 1.7 Reb, and AST by 1.6 AST in the finals compared to his regular season average. His Finals TS% is just .527. Not only that, but Celtics finish with 63 wins and lose once again with HCA a constant theme in Bird's career. This is the first time in Celtics history they lost in the finals with HCA.

1986- Great year. His best year ever. Wins the title. .615 TS% in the postseason and amazing finals.

1987- I think this is his most admirable playoffs up until the finals. The Celtics were quite banged up this year. Averaged 27-10-7 in the postseason with .577 TS%. Though his numbers in the finals dropped off once again. His PPG was 3.9 PPG down from the regular season, AST down by 2.1 AST and his TS% was just .534. In game 6, Bird scored just 16 points on 6-16 (.375) shooting. In the final 3 games of this series, Bird averaged just 20 PPG on .377 shooting and .492 TS% with 3.7 TOV. This is the first time Bird has played without HCA in the playoffs and his team loses.

1988- Bird's PPG drops by 5.4 PPG, Reb by 0.5 Reb. Bird shoots an awful 40-114 (.351) against the Pistons. Has a mediocre .538 TS% and 20.2 PER in the playoffs. The Celtics had HCA and the #1 SRS in the league and you probably guessed what happened next, Larry Bird loses with HCA once again.

1989- Injured doesn't play in the postseason.

1990- Bird shoots .539 TS% and has 3.6 TOV as the Celtics once again you guessed it, lose with HCA.

1991- In the first round, his team needs to go 5 vs. the 41 win Pacers. His PPG drop by 2.3 PPG and his Rebounds and Assists also drop quite a bit. Has a .490 TS% 15.8 PER in the playoffs. Against the Pistons Bird averages 13.4 PPG on .446 TS%. His 56 win team played with you guessed it HCA and loses with it.

1992- Doesn't play in the first round as the Celtics sweep the Pacers. In round 2, his team goes 7 against the Cavs, but Bird plays in 4 games and his team was 1-3 in those games. Averages a pathetic 11.3 PPG and 4.5 Reb which are 8.4 PPG and 5.2 Reb down from his regular season average. He has a .514 TS% and 16.4 PER in the postseason.


So out of 12 years, you get 9 years under .540 TS%, 5 under .520 TS%, and 3 under .500 TS%. From 80-83, he had a 19.9 playoff PER. In that span, Johnny Moore, Franklin Edwards, Gus Williams, and Bob Lanier all had better playoff PER and WS/48. Teammates Parish, McHale, Tiny Archibald, and Cedric Maxwell had better TS% in that span. From 88-92, he had a 18.8 PER which is 25th among players with 10 playoff games played. Players who had better playoff PER's in that span include Fat Lever, Terry Cummings, Roy Tarpley, Cedric Ceballos, and Sarunas Marciulionis. His teammates Reggie Lewis and Kevin McHale had better playoff PER's in that span.

With Bird you get a nice 4 year run that had 4 straight finals appearances but outside of that you get a 4 year span of .505 TS% (80-83) and a .525 TS% span (88-92). In 12 years, you get 7 losses with HCA. Basically out of Bird's 13 year career, you have 1 injury season and 3 non-descript postseasons at the end of his plus some playoff disappointments early in his career.

[tpols]

I think when op and his article describe clutch.. They mean guys who can get you a basket the best in a close game down the stretch. They don't mean big game performers.. Otherwise you'd see a lot more big men on the list.

Guys like wilt can't even hit a free throw when it counts much less score consecutive crunch time buckets.. If this was a least clutch list wilt mightve made it.